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Ummm. . .we're not 'geeks'. . .how did that happen?

POSTED BY: Static
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 4, 2004 12:12
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Monday, February 2, 2004 8:30 PM

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Originally posted by Static:

I'd gladly don a brown trench with you guys. . .strap a pistol to my hip and hang out at a convention. We'd look WAY cooler than the folks dressed as stormtroopers and Klingons. . .in my opinion.

And I bet that damn plastic (trooper) and rubber (klingon) armor wouldn't do NOTHIN' against a .45 caliber lead slug.



You dig .... (slang in my neck of the woods for 'with you 100%') - Besides, if Browncoats are geeks, give me the baton, brother, and I'll lead the geek parade in my brown coat- Best show ever-

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Monday, February 2, 2004 8:39 PM

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Originally posted by Static:
You know. . .in response to what someone said earlier. . .

I'd gladly don a brown trench with you guys. . .strap a pistol to my hip and hang out at a convention.



Me too! Me too!

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We'd look WAY cooler than the folks dressed as stormtroopers and Klingons. . .in my opinion.



Well, of course! Cooler by far, in both style and actual heat... You have no idea how HOT those prosthetics are!

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And I bet that damn plastic (trooper) and rubber (klingon) armor wouldn't do NOTHIN' against a .45 caliber lead slug.



Hehehe... As long as it's not one of those serious die-hards that make their own armor from actual 16 gauge steel... LOL

~A~

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You can't take the sky from me.

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Monday, February 2, 2004 8:39 PM

You know. . .now that I think about this. . .

Why do I think the geek from "The Simpsons" who owns The Android Dungeon would have HATED Firefly?

And why do I envision some con where a bunch of browncoats mix it up with some stormtroopers and kick their asses?

"Police have not been able to identify any suspects, but witness accounts say the assailants were 'dressed like normal people, and kept saying things like "Alliance Bastards!" as they pistol whipped their victims."

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Monday, February 2, 2004 8:50 PM

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It's US. . .our SAME stuggles. . .our SAME conflicts. . .just spread out a bit more. Ya know? It's too close to reality for even the MOST die-hard fans to get unrealistic.


I think it also helps that Firefly's heroes aren't nerds, unlike the vast majority of Star Trek's protagonists, and that the entirety of the problems they face aren't nerd problems. Instead of Geordi needing to reroute the diphasic coupler through the sensor array in order to emit a tetrion pulse in time to save the ship, Mal needs to negotiate with a desperado for a job without getting shot. The closest Firefly comes to a Star Trek plot is OoG, with, "Okay, cap'n, we need a new one of these dinguses, and it goes here like so."

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Monday, February 2, 2004 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by Fortunatus:
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The closest Firefly comes to a Star Trek plot is OoG, with, "Okay, cap'n, we need a new one of these dinguses, and it goes here like so."

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And it's made even better by the whole exchange of the whole exchange. . .(paraphrased)

Mal: Well. . .fix it!
Kaylee: Noooooooooo. . .we CAN'T 'fix it'. ..we have to REPLACE it.
Mal: Well we don't HAVE a replacement. . .so FIX it!
Kaylee: (rolls eyes) You're not paying attention. NO FIXEE PARTEE!!! REPLACEE PARTEE!!!

You're right. Very non-nerd. No computer geniuses in the scene. . .just a greasy mechanic and a guy who's in charge because he's the toughest.
(And yes, he IS the toughest, not Jayne, otherwise Jayne wouldn't be afraid of him.)

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Monday, February 2, 2004 9:01 PM

lol... funny thread.

I assume you don't mean 'geek' as in a performer but as ... oh let's say the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

I don't know if you're a geek just because you happen to like a Sci-Fi show. If so, obviously we who post here in a rather sad testimate to the fact that the second a decent TV show is broadcast, tptb will rush to cancel it.

Still, Firefly is a show about people. It isn't a Sci-Fi like Stargate is. Notice that the plots of SG-1 are pushed forward by the science while Firefly stories always move forward because of the characters.

It could be worst... you could be a football fan.

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Monday, February 2, 2004 9:02 PM

I too have no problem with the term geek. Everyone has something that sets them apart. When it comes to geeks however, we are the cool click. It's not because we are better, smarter, stronger, etc... It is simply due to the fact that our passion melds more socially then other Sci-Fi.

I have no problem with however wierd someone wants to be, hell if you want to pour mustard on your head and worship a pack of Hot Dogs, more power to you. As long as what you like hurts nobody else, or yourself, be as strange as you want to. Unfortunately, the average person likes to point out others differences negatively, so people will not notice what is actualy wrong with them (i.e. Astriana being a part time cheese-grater head) ,love to you Klingons by the way! Crapola I forgot she knows where I live

The exremists in our Sci-Fi culture however, give us all a bad name with those that don't follow Sci-Fi. I have personally known a guy who used to come into my store and refuse to speak anything but Klingon, another individual who had his ears surgically altered to look like an elf, and yes I know the Star Trek dentist and his wife. I applaud these people for living their life the way they want but, you have to live with the repercusions of that decision.

Sometimes as fans we have a scewed vision of what is cool. I'm very sure the guy that attends comic book cons dressed in tight spandex, weighing 300 plus pounds, thinks he makes a cool superman, but looks more like Jelly Donut Man to us. I just don't think its right to make judgements out loud about it. Snicker or recoil in horror as much as you want inside your head, you have that right. Don't however crush some poor persons dream.

We are lucky that our show uses a style of dress and languages that are not so far from the norm. We might make a few law enforcement officials nervous with our side-arms, but in general only the serious trendy fashion people will have anything negatve to say about our clothing.

Well thats my rant and I'm stickin' to it. Ifin' ya don't like it, please make yer complaints to www.VERA.com, response will be instantaneous.

The Hero of Canton, the man they call... Meeeeee!

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Monday, February 2, 2004 9:09 PM

You're very right about everything you said, SSon. I think that's why I chose to voice my views on this topic in this forum. I would certainly never stand up on a table at a Convention and say, "YOu're all LOSERS" or anything like that. . .because I don't think anyone like that is. Maybe more extreme than I am, but that's cool. I like to ride skateboards, but I don't think Tony Hawk is crazy just because he's more extreme about it than I am.

Like I said before . . .I really hope nothing I've said has offended anyone here. No matter how moderate or extreme you are in ANY fandom of ANY sci-fi or fantasy, I revel in the kinship WE share in our love of the greatest show ever made.

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Monday, February 2, 2004 9:10 PM

Normalcy sucks.

I tend to hang with a lot of the Renfaire, SciFi Convention and related crowd, most of whom, save for extreme examples, are just regular folk with a hobby the mainstream considers "odd".

Hell I drive a cab, in detroit, which is pretty mainstream, tho not real safe...

Browncoats don't generally creep folk out the way, say.. Klingons do, but I have no doubt we equal them in passion, so if that makes us geekish, bring it on.

I live near Ann Arbor, Michigan, too which is like the home of all weirdness, the only town where if you cuss out someone who cuts you off in Klingon, they might retaliate in kind..

DEFINATELY more fun than normalcy.

We're ok, they're just amusement-impaired, what's life worth if it ain't no fun ?

-frem
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Monday, February 2, 2004 9:15 PM

Hey, SerenitysSon, I bet you pro'ly didn't know that www.vera.com actually leads to "Virtus Energy - Renewable Energy Leaders"...

For the rest: Hear! Hear!

Loves back at ya! (From all of us crazy costumed players.)

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You can't take the sky from me.

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