Simon & River Deleted Scene

POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 3, 2004 19:57
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CALHOUN

Sunday, February 1, 2004 12:14 PM

Did anyone else get weirded out by the deleted scene where River wants to get married to Simon and pretends to be pregnant with the pillow?

PUMAMANREDUX

Sunday, February 1, 2004 1:44 PM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
Did anyone else get weirded out by the deleted scene where River wants to get married to Simon and pretends to be pregnant with the pillow?

"wha-whubba-who?"

what deleted scene was this? On the DVDs (I have yet to view all of them)?

Drama is life with the dull bits cut out. (Alfred Hitchcock)

GORRAMREAVERS

Sunday, February 1, 2004 2:24 PM

Its on the extras disk. Really kinda funny. I love the Doc's face when River says that.

STATIC

Sunday, February 1, 2004 2:26 PM

Given that River is known on occasion to revert to 'childlike' understanding, it actually makes sense. Children don't always understand the differences in the various types of 'love', and in their mind, love equals marriage, even to parents or siblings. . .it's pretty textbook developmental psychology. "The family way" gag only takes it a step further, but if you work with little kids (I mean LITTLE. . .like 3-6), it's a common fantasy game for little girls. This would also explain why Book didn't seem so shocked. I mean, what typical "Priest character" isn't familiar with kids? (NOT LIKE THAT, get your minds out of the gutter!)

Now. . .the OTHER theory, is that given River is a mind-reading genius, and only Joss and Tim really knew that for sure yet, River could simply be engaging in one of her favorite lucid pastimes. . .trying to get a reaction from her brother. This would ALSO explain why Book didn't seem too shocked. . .probably familiar with the ways younger sisters like to torment older brothers.

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CALHOUN

Monday, February 2, 2004 12:11 AM

Static,

I understand and agree with your take on the scene. Its just that when I first watched it I just wasnt sure if it was a joke or she was really being incestuous and it did indeed kinda weird me out. After all River is not really a child but a young woman of childbearing age. I guess your probably right about her having a childlike mentality though I see her as being "all knowing" and assumed she would be way beyond that sort mistake.

I could also be reading too much into a relatively insignificant scene. :)

Dory - "just keep swimmin, just keep swimmin"

FFYING2

Monday, February 2, 2004 1:47 AM

I thought a lot of that scene was just humor and showing River's psychic abilities. But I didn't like when Simon says, "She's... really crazy." That seems a little inconsiderate after all she's gone through, especially when he's her physician as well as her brother.

Simon may not know how to treat Kaylee, but I think his devotion to his sister would keep him from making such comments. Or at least apologizing when she's right there (maybe he would have even without being kicked in the shin by her).

I also thought Simon's "what going mad feels like" quips in Jaynestown didn't work, for the same reason. It's interesting that in Safe, his Chinese line was changed from "playing nursemaid to my ('not entirely sane') sister" to "bullied around by our ('?') of a captain."

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BROWNCOAT1

Monday, February 2, 2004 3:18 PM

Static is right on target.

I am the stepfather of a wonderful little girl and she used to have that same fantasy when she was younger, say 3 to 5 years old. She would tell her mother she wanted to "marry her" when she got older. She would tell me the same thing. It just seems to be a phase little girls go through.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, February 2, 2004 3:45 PM

I concur with Static and Browncoat, and add this.

She might be crazy, but HOW crazy is a matter of conjecture - because I can count half a dozen times she's played on the crews fear of her and her 'craziness' to do some chain-yanking in that bratty younger sister kinda way.

She really had one on book in Out of Gas, that was priceless, and her little trick of rolling her head around the doorframe in that creepifyin fashion is entirely deliberate... so she's not above deliberately creepin folks out to watch them react anymore than young boys are above ponytail yanking and putting spiders in your desk...

That said, it was a hi-larious scene.

-frem
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KURUKAMI

Monday, February 2, 2004 6:20 PM

What, that whole thing with "We'll freeze to death first"? I saw that more as River's tendency to state fact regardless of the concerns of those nearby rather than anything like deliberate "chain-yanking".

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

KOZURE

Monday, February 2, 2004 7:09 PM

Like many of River's other supposedly "crazy" moments, her play-acting marriage can also be interpreted to signify that she sees through Saffron's faux-marriage and is trying to draw attention to the ridiculousness (or true nature, one may also say) of the situation.

She specifically chooses to steal a pillow from Saffron's room (instead of her own or a more nearby dorm room) and of course pegs Saffron for exactly what she is... a thief. Not in the immediate sense of stealing the food, but in the larger (and true) role of hijacker.

In re-watching River's scenes, one can usually attribute a specific reason for her apparent insanity, from stripping off Blue Sun labels on food tins to slashing the Blue Sun logo on Jayne's shirt.

Not to say all of her actions have some deep inner meaning but quite a few of them do.

Kozure the Kamikaze Highlander

Proud Citizen of Canada-That-Was

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