Help my friend realise how stupid he is.

POSTED BY: blackbeanie
UPDATED: Monday, October 2, 2006 09:29
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MIKAMOM

Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:36 AM

I like to burn my own CDs to mix my music, but I have purchased the original CDs first or used a legal download site. Money is the only way we as fans can really support what we care about.

I hope that doesn't sound too cynical.

One summer.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
Starting June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

http://serenityjune23rd.com/

22CLAWS

Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:51 AM

While I agree in theory and sentiment with most of the posters, I thought I should say--retract claws.
I want more Firefly, too. And, I know money talks. But, a poor guy that buys a Serenity bootleg for five bucks, and is moved by its content, can become (like any one else), a faithful Browncoat. While that might not be money, it's not nothing.

I'm just saying.
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KURYA

Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:42 PM

Well I agree for people who can't afford it, well I can understand it, totally do.

However if someone can afford a dvd burner and buy blank dvds(yeah they are cheap but still costs money), they plan to burn lots of movies and tv shows, and not because they "love" those movies. If they claim they are a fan(and want more) and can afford to pay for the movie they should be willing to pay for a dvd on sale.

But as you said fine Ill retract the claws a bit...*puts away flame thrower*
Prakash

BORNTOFLY

Sunday, October 1, 2006 1:55 PM

Wait Wait Wait! Hold on just a second!

Your telling me, as one Australian to another, that you found Serenity on sale for $10?

Firstly, Please Buddha in Nirvana tell me you picked up a copy!

Secondly, where are you and if you live near me: Why was I not informed?

Hell, for that price I'd pick myself up a copy and a few for my (tighass) friends.

As for the whole burning firend thing..I have a few myself, and I flat out refuse to lend them any DVD I own (and there are hundreds). Just tell him that true Browncoats support the cause of spreading the signal. Piracy is a Signal's worst enemy.

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, October 1, 2006 3:31 PM

@BlackBeanie:

I all honesty, I think that your friend is profoundly stupid i.e. If he couldn't see from your first reaction that you thought burning the disk was wrong, then...

Personally, I don't see a problem (wait I'm going somewhere with this) with burning/downloading/etc as a first course to "try before you buy". I've found many a thing through downloading that I would have otherwise remained ignorant of and I'm happy I did it. I'm also certain that the companies that I'm buying these things from have a sort of bitter/sweet happiness as well (well the probably would if they knew it).

But, that brings me to the whole point. If you love it, you MUST SUPPORT IT. This means buying t-shirts/etc, DVD's, etc. Otherwise, we won't get more of what we want.

Now specifically regarding this guy. I don't care how poor he is. If I could afford a $10 item when I was in highschool, then so can he. There is NO excuse.

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I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

JUSTSHINY

Monday, October 2, 2006 6:33 AM

I can't say I'd punch him, cause I don't know him...but if I knew him, I'd punch him.

A true Browncoat would have to have a gun held to their head or a threat of death by Reavers to make them rip off a copy of Serenity. That is just not cool.

There is no honor among thiefs of Serenity...only a few thiefs in Serenity.

"In the spaceship, the silver space ship, the lion takes control."
AIM:LuckieDragon7
Always up for talkin' to my fellow Browncoats!

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Monday, October 2, 2006 7:05 AM

I'm not one for burning movies. I have a collection of over 500 titles and not one of them is an illegal copy (okay that's not true, I just remembered that I got a copy of the Aristocrats). That being said, though Idon't condone your friends choice in acquiring movies, I don't condemn it either.

The chance of a Serenity sequel all but died when the BDM made a paltry $25,514,517 domestic gross. That's gross people, that is before they factor in the $39,000,000 it took to make it. So total, domestically, the movie lost nearly $14mil. Factor in it's foreign gross of $13,337,435, it only lost $150,000, give or take. That's what Universal is going to look at, the bottom line. They don't care about DVD sales, if a movie is going to fail at the box office, they aren't going to invest in it. (God I hope I'm wrong and they make it anyway, regardless of the potential losses)

So, a few illegal copies of a movie being made really isn't hurting anything. The fact that what he's doing is illegal and if you're going to take the moral high ground, condemn the whole action. Just getting mad at him because he's duping a movie you like doesn't make much sense.

If you're going to be mad at anyone. Be made at all the 'luke warm' Browncoats that decided to stay home and catch the movie when it came out on DVD. If half of them got off their butts and went, there would have been a theatrical gross that demanded attention. I personally went and saw it three times, with three groups of people and I'd love to go again.

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I'll be in my bunk.
http://www.myspace.com/babywiththepower

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, October 2, 2006 7:12 AM

Actually, babywiththepower, Universal has been quoted as saying that if DVD sales put the movie in the black, they would be happy to make a sequel. They liked the project and seem to be open-minded enough that, as long as they can make a profit (or at very least break even) eventually, a box-office smash hit is not necessarily their goal.
Don't ever let me hear you say hope for a sequel is dead again.
People not contributing to that hope, who are stealing money from Universal, from Joss, from all the Big Damn Heroes... Those people deserve a punch square in the nose.

http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude!

We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow in sunlight. - Gautama Siddharta

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Monday, October 2, 2006 7:33 AM

In all fairness, I said 'all but died', there is a BIG difference. I'll agree, to a point, that I don't like copying of the movie (for selfish reasons of course). But my attitude is drastically different with Firefly. FOX, in my opinion, can go to hell. And it's not taking a damn thing from our BDHs because royalties on DVD sales for the actors is about $.01 per disc. FOX is the only one benefitting from Firefly sales. At least with the movie you have Universal involved (which gives a ray of hope in an otherwise bleak sky).

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I'll be in my bunk.
http://www.myspace.com/babywiththepower

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, October 2, 2006 7:42 AM

Sorry to contradict you again, but FOX broadcasting does not own nor get money for Firefly. 20th Century Fox, the production company, are the ones benifiting from the Firefly DVDs. Joss has stated that, when the show was cancelled, he asked FOX broadcasting for the right to shop it elsewhere, and they gave up their stake in the property right there. At least that is what I have heard from several sources. 20th Centrury Fox still has the production rights, however. They always treated Joss well and he has no problem with them. Somewhere there was a thread about not confusing the two companies; I'll see if I can dig it up as well, but I don't know if I can find it.

http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude!

We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow in sunlight. - Gautama Siddharta

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