Male and Female Imponderables--Delicate Sound of Thunder
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 15:41
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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
John as in the Book of John?
Okay, so here's a small peeve of mine. Please take no offense ladies as I am but a man and occasionally know not what I do.
So most women, regardless of age and society, that I have been graced enough to communicate with do this thing.
Talking about folks of which I have no idea who they are.
"So Suzy kicked Bill square in the junk. He fell like a ton of bricks right into a pile of Sam's dog Fuzzy's crap. You know, the Pomeranian she got from Ted's sister Mabel, (whispers), the one with the crooked eye. So he went to Doctor Sham's and was told he actually had three testicles. I wondered why Helen called him Thrice,"
Okay, so the story is quite funny. Or, at least to my childish mind. But who the Fudge are these people?
Okay, rant done (for now). Just wondering why some women are inclined to do this.
I get that too!!! In fact, I get it from people talking about soap operas and/or Big Brother! I tell them over and over that I don't watch them, but they keep on cheerfully giving me the latest gossip from the show, yapping on about all these names that mean nothing to me.
That being said, I talk about people other people don't know, but only if there's a funny story (I like telling funny stories) and I'll do my best to explain who is who first. I usually mention funny stuff that happens at work anyway so most of my friends know the names of my workmates. I don't talk about their lives or anything though. I mean, it's not like they know my workmates, so why would they care?
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NV- sorry about that. One of the things that the ritalin helps with is my tendancy toward non-sequiter. My poor husband is still recovering from the time he had been telling me the basic plot of the show Forever Knight( about a repentant vampire turned cop who's trying to cure his vampirism) and two days later out of the blue with no lead in or connection " where did he get the animal blood'
John is a friend of mine. I used his name because I hate it when people say " there was this guy and he went with this other guy and this girl to this guys house and..." I get lost during those stories so I figure the name isn't important as a referential, just as a way to keep track of who is who in the story.
Chris- well I'd certainly be concerned if I were in your family as you seem unable to find a topic other than death, pain, or weakness that holds your attention. That's not really a sign of a healthy mind.
And if I understand you correctly you believe that we should return to a time period when severe physical abuse was not illegal because the resultant aggression was more normal for the human race? And that history bears this out because of wars? If that is what you said it's a bit odd as each civilization as it develops, tends to develop away from physical violence.Warfare was neither common place nor a way of life from most people during most time periods. Violence has, in general been contained to small groups ( millitary usually)
If you are referring to child abuse, historically it has never been common place and has been confined to those sadistic individuals who can only gain gratification by abusing those they are physically stronger than. In fact Henry the 8th once had a cortier beheaded when he witnessed the courtier abusing his wife and children( the courtier's wife)and condemned it as an act of a madman.
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
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Boy, when Henry VIII says you're treating your wife badly, you know there's a problem!
On that cheeful note I bid thee all goodnight and sweet dreams 
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No problemo. I just wnated to stoke conversation with an observation. But look at the summary of Forever Knight. I'd watch it with that explaination (show rocked by the way)
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Hmm, that all makes too much much sense. I never looked at it in terms of pain medication for physical vs. anti-depressents for mental.
Even so, I actually prefer not to take medications for physical pain. The last time I did was when they cut me open to take bullet fragments out of my shoulder. The way I see it, I'm still weak for taking them, and Lord knows I wish I could be tough enough to endure the pain of invasive surgery without meds. I think it would be the mark of a truly superior person to be able to withstand that kind of pain by themselves, and while I may not ever acheive that, I'll certainly strive for it.
Reproduction's never an issue for me, so I guess it was stupid of me to bring that up in the first place. Anyways, I see your point and the vailidity behind it.
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Originally posted by msg:
Chris- well I'd certainly be concerned if I were in your family as you seem unable to find a topic other than death, pain, or weakness that holds your attention. That's not really a sign of a healthy mind.
And if I understand you correctly you believe that we should return to a time period when severe physical abuse was not illegal because the resultant aggression was more normal for the human race? And that history bears this out because of wars? If that is what you said it's a bit odd as each civilization as it develops, tends to develop away from physical violence.Warfare was neither common place nor a way of life from most people during most time periods. Violence has, in general been contained to small groups ( millitary usually)
If you are referring to child abuse, historically it has never been common place and has been confined to those sadistic individuals who can only gain gratification by abusing those they are physically stronger than. In fact Henry the 8th once had a cortier beheaded when he witnessed the courtier abusing his wife and children( the courtier's wife)and condemned it as an act of a madman.
The way I recall learning it, Japan has had the longest reign of peace out of any nation in history, and that was only around 250 years. Am I just horribly mis-informed? I'm racking my brain right now trying to think of a nation or culture that hasn't had to deal with constant domestic and/or foreign violence.
Anyways, I'm not saying we should necessarily "return to a time" like that, but take into deeper consideration what might and might not be valuable from them, in spite of what we've been pre-conditioned to think of as taboo or unpleasant. Everyone I talk to in real life is quick to point out that our modern society as little use for older values that promote suffering, survival and an overall harsh lifestyle. I am equally quick to point out that assuming the world in front of us is the only one that will ever exist is a mistake repeated hundreds of times throughout history and almost always with dire consequences. Times of peace should not be for lulling ourselves into a false sense of security, believing that we're somehow not subject to the same realities as the rest of the world is and always has been. How many nations believed that they lived in golden ages that would never end? England? Rome? China? Japan? It's just plain ignorant to assume that we're exempt from the same fate. Those lapses of ignorance are the kinds of things that lead to 9/11 happening, and we should thank our lucky stars it wasn't worse.
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"Pain is your friend, it is your ally. It will keep you awake, and angry, and remind you to finish the mission and get the hell home. But you know the best thing about pain? It let's you know that you're not dead yet."
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Night night DTH. And yes. That is pretty bad.
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The absence of pain equals near death. At least if there is pain then you know you're alive. A superior person knows that pain is a fact of life and would do their best to alleviate it in ways that are not detrimental to their health. Some times most people need meds to keep the stress and anxiety down after the type of trauma you mentioned. Without keeping their heart rate and breathing in check they may open up and bleed to death. Even in small wounds. And if the person happens to be sleeping or unconcious, they might never wake up.
You are not weak, you are human.
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As someone who is bipolar (the new term for manic depressive) I am in complete agreement with DesktopHippie. My condition is a chronic condition, like diabities. The medications allow me to lead my life. Much like insulin does for a diabetic. There were no out of the ordinary tragic events in my life. This is not a condition one can just "snap out of it". It has nothing to do with personal strenght or toughness. It is a chemical imbalance.
Unfortunately there are plenty of Doctors who simply prescribe medications, instead of treating the patient. Prozac and Rittlan have both seen much popularity. Years ago it was valiumn. It seems that there will always be a percentage of the population that will always look for a "pill" to make there lives better whether it is necesary or not.
As far as the belief that the medications will inhibit creativity, or cause personality changes, I have not lost any creativity. I still write, design theatre sets, and act. And my personality is more truly my own. When I was untreated for the BiPolar, there were times when I was a spectator in my own head. Not in control of what I was saying or doing. With the medications, I am more truly myself. So if that is a change in personality, I welcome it.
Perhaps my experiences are unique, but I would not give up the medications. On them I am me, without them there is a very real risk that I would end my own life. (Untreated Bipolar patients have a much higher suicide rate then people who are only depressive. It is due , in part, to the swings from euphoria to the depths of depression. The ride becomes exhausting and very scary, and there is no feeling of control. The only control is the ability to end it all.)
Personally I see it as a strength to take control of my condition, by any means possible, and reclaim my life.
And now I will get off my soapbox.
there is a special place in Hell for people who talk at the Theatre.
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Man you guys talk a lot. Finally caught up from my absence just about in time to go home for the night.
Actually I mainly skimmed this stuff. Don't really have any particular point to jump in on though.
Medicating kids is usually not necessary IMO. We didn't do it for years and years. Those kids turned out alright.
Hmmm guess I did have a particular point to jump in on.
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SirFrancis! Welcome to the Imponderables! Thanks for making this your first stop. Hope to see you here often.
This is not meant to be an insult, as I also come from a theatre background...but I find it helpful to have some sort of disorder in the theatre field...heck, it's almost mandatory!
Having said that, let me thank you for sharing that with us.
Welcome back, Zeek! Yeah, there are days this thread just burns.
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