America's Ineptitude

POSTED BY: misbehaven
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 19:54
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CHRISISALL

Monday, September 25, 2006 6:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Insurance is a scam, let's get it straight and up front, especially legally mandated insurance because it is a "captive market", you have no option to refuse to pay the extortion.

Right on, Frem.
And Corporatism is at the root.
Legalized and enforced feudalism of a kind.
We are a nation that prizes individuality, and our individuality if force-fed to us by the Golden Rulers.
At least some of us see this.

Chrisisall

TOBEDOG

Monday, September 25, 2006 9:29 PM

Your reply isn't worth my response.

Go out and read some books.

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyoski
The Cash Flow Quadrant by Robert Kiyoski
The Millionaire Mind by T. Harv Eker
Missed Fortune 101 by Douglas Andrew
Think and Grow Rich by Napeleon Hill

Do you know what the definition of insanity is:

Doing the same things day after day and expects different results.

"Six men came to kill me one time. The best of 'em carried this. Its a Killhan Full-Bore Auto Lock, customized trigger, double-cartridge thorough-gage. It is my very favorite gun."

XGMRFURIOUS

Monday, September 25, 2006 9:45 PM

I have some in-laws in Canada, so, from my experience of being in a Canadian emergency room and a US emergency room, i'll choose the US emergency room. Canada's definately seemed like a the place you go to die.

And yes, i have insurance, i take responsibility for myself and my family. I don't need the Clinton's to babysit me.

Luckily for my wife, she was able to fly back to the US for the surgery she needed considering the device she needed was only available in ONE hospital in Toronto, but yet it was available IN THE MEDICAL OFFICE of several doctors back in the States as well as in each hospital.

You get what you pay for. Some people don't want to pay anything at all. I wish them safe journey, i hope you don't get hurt along the way.

XGMRFURIOUS

Monday, September 25, 2006 9:48 PM

Classic double post.

MISBEHAVEN

Monday, September 25, 2006 10:34 PM

You make some very valid points. I'm glad that your financial situation enables you to afford insurance, but millions of other people in this country simply can't pay for the additional expense. Currently, I have insurance as well; however, I've had jobs in the past that neither offered insurance nor paid enough of a salary for me to afford insurance on my own. The problem is that the system leaves too many people without access to health care. It not so much a question of people not being willing to pay, rather its a question of them being unable to pay.

"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, September 25, 2006 11:08 PM

Well, while we're suggesting reading material there TOBE...

A Caveat Against Injustice - Roger Sherman
Usury, destroyer of nations - S. C Mooney
Billions for Bankers, Debts for the People - Sheldon Emry
War is a Racket - Major General Smedley Butler

Unlike the get rich quick books you suggested, mere recycled clones of the same circular logic that assumes you to have significant money to invest in the first place, and doesn't take into account ugly realities like utility bills, vehicle, home and health insurance and the like.

All four of the above have stood the test of time and scrutiny.

My reply 'isn't worth' your response because you don't have one.

-Frem

KANEMAN

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:31 AM

Why can I buy an additional $50,000 - $100,000 in life insurance for what amounts to pennies a week, but my health insurance is 30 bucks? I never use my health.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 4:36 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
I agree with many of your points, Fremdfirma, but I disagree, at least in part, on Education. I grew up in poverty, and have managed to go to college, pay back (most of) my student loans, and have a job that pays, if not a lot, at least enough to live comfortably at this stage in my life.

It's not impossible, but it is difficult - but most worthwhile things are.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

I would rather live in a country that has free health care, long lines for toilet paper, and no personal liberties or responsibility. If that's not possible, I'll go where thousands die because of a heat wave.

and... what point are you making exactly? And how does it relate to my post?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XGMrFurious:
Canada's definately seemed like a the place you go to die.

It " seemed" like a place you go to die.

OK,you percieved it that way, from your political bias, and perhaps because you weren't treated as respectfully as you seem to think you decerve.

But did anyone actually die there/then?

Perception can be a basis for choice, but facts are a lot more useful. The Earth is percieved as flat, unless you use specialized observations, but the fact is that it's really a round ball

RUE

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:08 PM

XGMrFurious: "... the device she needed was only available in ONE hospital in Toronto, but yet it was available IN THE MEDICAL OFFICE of several doctors back in the States as well as in each hospital."

I'm just curious what was the device and what was the surgery. I can't imagine an emergency applicable device available in medical offices. So I suspect the surgery was not a matter of life and death, but elective. In which case, yes, it would have limited availability.

I really hope you reply, as the devil, they say, is in the details. Which you seem to have carefully left out.

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