Male and Female Imponderables--Delicate Sound of Thunder
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 15:41
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Hey, no robotripping in here please!
Ahem. Anyway . . . I've been pondering a question posed by Tom Baker:
"Why is a mouse when it spins?"
Why, indeed . . .
"First come smiles, then come lies. Last is gunfire." - Roland Deschain, gunslinger
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MSg- I wish I had a basement to let them play in.I'm in a small apartment. Unfortunately there's no escape.ANd benadryl has the oppisite effect on my children -they get extra hyper from it.
I'll keep the totem facing west towards you.He's got great energy.
NV -any child would be lucky to have your genes.really.
Tristan -the velcro thing sounds great, but being energetic boys,they'd probably like it too much.
I just had the best pizza for dinner.I don't like big city life,but the food choices are outstanding.In 1 block from me I've got -Turkish,Russian,Chinese,pizza,and sushi.And everything else delivers.
Bryce
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I swallowed a bug.
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Yeah, but eventually they may fit in my jeans. That sucks
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Hey guys! Gosh you've been busy posters today. I'm all tired and covered in paint from decorating!
I'm kind of scared of this talk of breeding. Sounds like the none too subtle hints my mum drops. Luckily she's been diverted by the news that my sister's expecting twin boys. This is a good thing as although I love babies (from a distance) I seriously doubt that I have the patience to be a mum. I have too much of a temper to ever trust myself not to be screamy shouty mum, or worse.
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Hissssssssss!
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Originally posted by Tristan:
LA29, invest in lots of velcro. Stich one part on to the children's clothing, staple the other part about four feet up the wall. When they give you problems, stick them to the wall for awhile.
... and you told us you weren't parent material!
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I have heard legend of the Benadryl Smoothie. Never been *quite* desperate enough to try it. Yet.
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Howdy Mags. Jumpin' in from work (Here late for all things, a parenting group. Facilitator. Lucky me!)
Velcro-The worlds new babysitter.
'Night all.
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Morning everyone! I am tired today but in fairly good spirits as it is my Friday.
Mav, haven't you heard the adage "Have sex with your husband every night and you'll get what you want without a fight"? Not saying it's true for every man on the face of the planet, but might be true for yours. Oddly enough, I think that rule would apply to me, too. (Oh no, now you all know my secret!) Why? Happiness and a relaxed attitude. Endorphins are good.
On the drugging kids thing: supposedly my great uncle by marriage was a doctor and would sedate his 11 children on road trips. I never met the man, so it's all hearsay, but I don't find it hard to believe. Eleven kids?! Yeah, scary thought. I don't know how my great aunt survived it.
Um, am I missing anything? Sorry to hear your homework troubles, Whitefall. Knew there was a reason I don't miss school.
I want a nap. Damn work...
http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude!
Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. - Gautama Siddharta
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Y'know strangely enough, I don't agree with drugging children, even though I really don't like them. Anything from alcohol to zoloft or ridelin, just doesn't sit well with me. There seems to be a lot of people sitting on either side of the fence, one side says "Too many pills!" and the other says "Shut up! The pills are working!".
I'd ask both sides to consider this:
Children, all the way from ancient times up until as recently as 50 years ago, were beaten regularly by parents and other disciplinary figures. It's only a product of modern times, really, that beating them has become taboo. To that effect, possibly, there seems to be a much greater sub-culture of rebellion in youth now-adays than at any recorded part of human history (at least the history I've read). Yet today we diagnose most abused children as having disorders of any and every type from emotional, to psychological, to chemical.
My... question, theory, whatever it is, is that if we've been beating our young since the beginning of our recorded history and, presumably, before, would it not be the "natural" state of humanity to have been beaten as a child? Might all these "disorders" be either a product of their own creation (you give someone an excuse, they use it), or perhaps just the natural state of humanity?
It's a far-off concept, I know, but I really believe that humans are meant to endure a great deal of suffering at some point in their lives. It's part of the human experience; to know the darker side of ourselves instead of ignoring. Most people accept that having your heart broken in a relationship for the first time is part of growing up, as are many other painful experiences. Yet it's my observation that even these are falling out of general acceptance of what a child should and shouldn't endure when they're younger.
So what is it? A 'pussification' of mankind? Or do you believe we're actually "advancing" ourselves by taking away all forms of suffering? Or maybe you're somewhere in between? Certainly, I think it's an issue of balance, but my idea of balance tends to be much different than most people's.
And, as a disclaimer, I was beaten as a child, so don't assume I'm totally uninformed on the subject. I'm putting this forth as a question, not a statement.
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"Pain is your friend, it is your ally. It will keep you awake, and angry, and remind you to finish the mission and get the hell home. But you know the best thing about pain? It let's you know that you're not dead yet."
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Chris - I think I need to re-read and ponder some more before I respond to that - but thank you for the thought you've put into it! As a nanny I see a lot of what you're saying in action, and in studies I read... I just need to organise my thoughts before I put them here in black and white. BTW, sorry to sound prudish, but I find the term 'pussification' somewhat insulting to all of the women here... thought you'd rather have it pointed out than ignored. We welocme your input - it's just not a terribly respectful way of contributing... hope you don't mind me saying! 
Also - LOL!! when I read that you were spreading your genes from your jeans, NVG, I got the giggles coz I had a vision of you traipsing round the country with a very Elvis Presley style of pelvic action associated! 
Be back soon - it's been a very tiring day!
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