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Will the Next Election Be Hacked?

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RUE
Friday, September 22, 2006 5:41 PM

I said MASSIVE.

MILLIONS of LEGAL voters were dropped off the rolls in the last 2 election cycles. MILLIONS more had their votes spoiled. Roughly 3 MILLION total voters in the last election cycle, mostly democrats, were denied their vote.

"... the problem is far more than GOP hype. Has this board always been so full of untrue blanket statements that people let slide?" Not until your post.

So, what do YOU intend to do about MASSIVE election fraud that denies MILLIONS of legal voters their vote?

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Friday, September 22, 2006 5:49 PM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Problem with your post GEEZER is that as far as I know, there has been no evidence of massive voter fraud. There's a lot of evidence of election fraud.


Thats true. I myself only defrauded a few of my fellow Ohio'ns. And is running over a little old lady on her way into the polls to vote for kerry really a fraud? I think not.

I noticed a comment that voter IDs are another poll tax...how about if we make them free? Problem solved...

H

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RUE
Friday, September 22, 2006 6:56 PM

Unless you are a poor black who was born in the south at home - no birth cert, no SS#, no driver's license - none of the usually accepted IDs. In which case free = impossible.

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Friday, September 22, 2006 7:16 PM

Geezer,

Good idea.

I think there's also a problem which is going to come from the other end. I think we should have a back up system, an independent citizen's record of voters and how they voted, so we can challenge any machine generated result. It would be nice to be able to say definitively "To Smith voted for McCain, even if the machine says he voted for Hillary, because we have hear on election day Tom signing his name swearing his vote was for McCain."

We have the technology to keep track of everyone and their votes, no reason to rely on massive number sums anymore, as these voting machine systems still do.

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Righteous:
There has been no evidence of massive voter fraud.



What country are you in?

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Id's for voting are essentially a poll tax.


Nonsense. IDs are IDs. we can accept anything, as long as it can be looked up in a database. How about social security numbers. You could type them in. Maybe give everyone a password.

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Spacelips:
If every voter had to be validated it would be a Republican landslide every four years.



You think democrats cheat that much? I know they have a problem with dead people voting, but I don't credit this claim.

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Rue:
It's FAR too late in the election cycle to insist on this now. How about a 5 year lead time?



How about 2 or 3? We ought to be able to straighten this out for 2008.

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Rue:
But I agree with righteous. There is NO evidence of massive voter fraud. That's a republican decoy. There IS evidence of massive election fraud.



Rue,

There is voter fraud, on both sides. In Ohio in 2004 some white woman, a republican, went into her primarily black democrat precinct, and went into one booth, claimed the machine was broken, and then they let her go into the other booth. She was able to break both machines, shutting down voting for that precinct, thus killing several hundred democrat votes.

It happens on both sides, and all over the place.

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Friday, September 22, 2006 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Unless you are a poor black who was born in the south at home - no birth cert, no SS#, no driver's license - none of the usually accepted IDs. In which case free = impossible.



Let the Government pay for verifying citizenship then. There are legal steps which can be taken to do this in situations where there is no paper trail. This would also help such a person get SSA benefits, Medicare, etc., so it's a win-win.

C'mon. You're willing to spend multi-millions to completely revamp the process of casting ballots, based on allegations, most of which have never made it to the judicial system, but aren't willing to spend a bit of the taxpayer's money to verify that the people voting actually have the legal right to vote?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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RUE
Friday, September 22, 2006 7:47 PM

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You're willing to spend multi-millions to completely revamp the process of casting ballots ... but aren't willing to spend a bit of the taxpayer's money to verify that the people voting actually have the legal right to vote?

You've got me all wrong. Talk about mis-representing the argument.

You say I'm willing to spend millions to install new voting machines. I never wanted or even approved of new machines. And I've said that what's been put in place is a travesty. That was Bush and buds who wanted it, pushed it, and did it. As far as I'm concerned, paper ballots and wooden boxes are just fine, as long as they work.

And I think BILLIONS should be spent on verifying voter ID and getting everyone who can vote access to vote.

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Friday, September 22, 2006 10:22 PM

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Will the Next Election Be Hacked?
Of course it will. Why are we still talkin' about something that's been decided?

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Hehe...so in all of google all I have for prima county voter fraud are freerepublic links and one to Hannity.

That's your hard evidence?

oh here.

http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/starmedia/43645

Graf - the guy arguing for the prop said that there were at least 3 or 4 cases of voter fraud in the county


http://www2.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/13/cq/sanchez.html
Google "illegal voters"
Look up the rest your self...Or don't... you don't want to know the truth. It is always easier for morons to live with their heads up their asses than to face reality when it is in direct conflict with their baseless beliefs...Well, it's true....

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:20 PM


Thanks for the link Kaneman. I didn't look up the second example spacelips gave because the first one sucked so bad.

So there we are. 748 votes is the great debacle of voter fraud? Not even enough registered cases to skew a local election? Not even enough for the republican dominated congress to call foul at the time?

So there we have it. Voter fraud = red herring. Thank you for your contribution to our point, Kaneman. I always thought you more of a righty.

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Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:24 PM

No, that is not the great debacle of voter fraud. It is the number of illegals voting in just one election in one county is what it is. And there have been many elections throughout this country that have been decided by less than that. If that is not a problem in your book, you are either an idiot, intellectually and morally dishonest, or both. I'd wager on the latter. Your posts are as transparent as air.

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