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POSTED BY: IndigoStarblaster
UPDATED: Saturday, September 23, 2006 18:52
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I find this site beautiful and welcoming, myself, in the sense that it's the only one I've found so far where I've felt really comfortable coming in and having conversations with all you lovely folks (I'm pretty much a newbie for anything Internet-related, other than email), but it would be nice to have a search function on it.
In any case -- thank you, Haken, for creating and maintaining this site!
Indigo S.
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Originally posted by ubergeek:
No Offence to the creator to this site but, Not only is this site ugly, but it has huge usablity issues (for example what this topic is about, the inablity to search, which is a basic function of any real fourm.)
uh, ya so rant over :(
I'm a newbie here- and popped in to learn the secrets of searching this site...what a bonus- I get to bask in the glow of your shiny goodness! Tell us, what's it like to have your sh*t not stink?
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Originally posted by ubergeek:
And as for what you have done, All FFF needs to do is copy and paste the HTML/Javascript. 3 miutes of work.
No Javascript, it's just an HTML form.
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Originally posted by ubergeek:
End the end I should just wright a PHP script that in which one could choose from a dropdown menu where they want to search and then their search query is sent to google with out people haveing to remember all the commands.
Wholly overkill Batman! Why write a PHP script when instead of radio buttons, one could use a drop-down list (as you said) and send that directly to google? I'll see what I can do.
EDIT: I tried the dropdown thing and it worked... sorta.
http://fireflylabs.ca/misc/fffsearch2.html
1) When google comes up the extra options are not presented anymore.
2) When searching the BlueSun Room, the wallpapers are not included as they don't view off of sunroomitem.asp.
So, it partially works, but w/ problems.
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Originally posted by ubergeek:
But there is one problem with this. Firefly Fans runs on ASP which, i do not know.
This one irritates me as well. Otherwise, I would have asked Haken to be part of the team a couple years ago.
Not only does it use a M$ "language", but it runs on a high overhead OS, using a high overhead webserver, using a high overhead DB.
If I may be so bold to makes some suggestions:
Lighttpd was designed with the c10K problem in mind. So, it's very quick and can handle extremely high loads. Utilizing its fastcgi module with php, would result in a very quick site.
The DB engine should be MySQL for speed, or if data integrety is a large concern, PostgreSQL would be better. Also, far better backup managment should be implemented.
Changing to a low(er) overhead OS is also something that should be done, but not strictly necessary as the above tech runs on windows as well. Perhaps a *BSD or a distro of Linux? I'm partial to OpenBSD myself b/c of the security aspects.
That tech should result in a better experience for everyone.
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Originally posted by ubergeek:
Eventuly what I would like to do is *try* to get me and some other fans (preferably Web Desinger like myself) and redo this site or make a new site and have everyone transfer to the new one.
After the last little fiasco with this site, I was thinking of starting an open fireflyfans.net project to re-write the site. There are long standing bugs here that I've reported and have yet to be fixed (not to mention needed features). But, Haken hasn't gotten around to fix them for some reason (nor adding necessary features).
Unfortunately, it won't happen unless Haken wants it to happen. And if past behaviour is any clue, it won't. That's why I haven't tried.
Btw, I'm not a web designer, I'm a web programmer. So, if you do start something, I can handle the back-end stuff (or at least possibly manage the team, or be part of it, or... whatever).
But, I must say, that everyone here has become accustumed to this site and the way it works. So, my idea was to redo the backend of the site w/o touching the look and feel (and perhaps what should be done first). That being said, a proper design (templates) should allow the site to have a drop in replacement if wanted at any time in the future.
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Wow. How utterly innappropriate.
And you've been a member for a month.
Please, send me an email when your new site is up and running. I'll be sure to sign right up!
1) the length of time someone has been a member has NOTHING to do with if there point is valid
2) (s)he was NOT talking about make another site, but redoing this one
3) ever notice how often this site is going down recently? think that might indicate that something needs to happen?
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Originally posted by notmandatory:
I'm a newbie here- and popped in to learn the secrets of searching this site...what a bonus- I get to bask in the glow of your shiny goodness! Tell us, what's it like to have your sh*t not stink?
1) When I got here I found it difficult to navigate the site. And I'm a web developer, which indicates a problem as a work and play on the net.
2) This is an issue that regualarly comes up with new people. I know this b/c I've been here for over 2 years.
I'm not going to defend the way (s)he put it, BUT, the way (s)he put it, is not the point that (s)he was trying to get across. Furthermore, this person is basically offering to start a team to attempt to fix the problem(s) on this site. Which is something rare in any circle as people usually complain and do nothing, and offer to do nothing.
In all honesty, are we as a group becoming so elitist that suggests are taken as absolute hostility right off the hop without considering if they are valid or not?
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In general, I would agree with your first point. Length of time does not dictate right or wrong. Did you read the post however? It was antagonistic, and a bit trollish, IMO.
I'm sorry. I don't think this site is ugly. Do you?
(S)he clearly stated redoing this site. Is (s)he Haken? Does (s)he own it?Don't think so.
Don't like this site? Go find another. It's a free country. I think fff.net is just fine. Quirky, to be sure. But, I sell furniture. I'm not a programmer.
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
In general, I would agree with your first point. Length of time does not dictate right or wrong. Did you read the post however? It was antagonistic, and a bit trollish, IMO.
And asking if I had actually read the post isn't antagonistic? Personally I didn't find it so. But, that's an opinion thing now isn't it? So, do you think that I haven't read it just b/c I don't have your opinion of it?
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
I'm sorry. I don't think this site is ugly. Do you?
Again, this can be considered as you being antagonistic toward me! But, I won't consider it that way.
Personally, I think that the site is too "busy". A reorganization is probably in order, but in general the design isn't terribly flawed. Just some tweaking is in order.
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
(S)he clearly stated redoing this site. Is (s)he Haken? Does (s)he own it?Don't think so.
I know that (s)he is stated that (s)he wants to redo the entire site, BUT that doesn't mean that the project (if Haken agrees) couldn't be changed to just re-writing the site engine.
This would rather benifit you (and everyone) as users as those long standing bugs will go away
e.g. post a comment on someones blog and use a
to see if you get a pic, or the printout of the image tag. I reported that one a couple years ago.Furthermore, suggesting improvments to the site is hardly the sole domain of the owner. That's exactly what the FIREFLYFANS.NET Central section is for after all.
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Don't like this site? Go find another.
I'm terribly sorry to say, but this is a very childish thing to say. Especially given the existence of the FIREFLYFANS.NET Central section.
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Eventuly what I would like to do is *try* to get me and some other fans (preferably Web Desinger like myself) and redo this site or make a new site and have everyone transfer to the new one.
ok lets set this straght:
1. I would be happy to work with people to fix issues with this site, or if the creator is unwilling, find a small team and create a new one.
2. I love this site, despite its quarks, for the people. The people make this site what it is. As with any other site. I like this site for many reasons. The fact that most people are like minded and when you have an *oppinion* (a freaking oppinion people) they wont flame you (well i guess that isnt true any more)
3. I may only be a member on this site for a Month. But does that mean that I cant read what is on this site before I signed up? Does that mean That im not a fan? Or I dont have a place to voice my oppionion? I certanly hope not.
As I said, the site has usibilty issues. That is the main reason I wated so long to sign up. I didnt want to deal with the way it worked.
Now, if no one wants to help me or thinks my Idea is stupid then the idea will die. Redoing/Makeing a new site of this size and calaber would take quite a while if one were to do it alone.
really, why flame me for an oppinion?
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@SigmaNunki:
acculy im a programmer too. I jsut dabble in design.
http://antims.com (*please* dont view in IE. it will not look right at all. Mainly because I use PNG's with transparncys and the site is much longer then it should be, for wich I have no clue as to why)
the only reason I would use PHP to provide the search querys is I would have more control over what you can search for and the pramaters. it would just be a simple swich that would change what would be but into a http header then rediret to google with the custom query in the ?q= part of the url.
The only real issues i have with this site is the lack of a search function and the link structure. The color scheme is not a problem. I have just been brainwashed to be minimalsit by all the "web 2.0" sites now.
Aslo so JS BB code buttons would be nice, so you dont have to type in the BB codes your self (think of a word processer).
I am only saying all this because a big scary site that people dont know how to use right off the bat by just looking at the site *generaly* *tend* to scare people away from it. (im not saying this about any current members of the site, cause this obvoulsy dosnt apply to you)
If we were to make a new site, I would just think to use somthing at lest like PHPBB (if not vBulleten or IPB) then do all the custom Fanfic, and gallaries our self.
I have even had the Idea to have a video gallary. (but the video be hosted on youtube to save bandwidth) Because all these great Trailors and Music videos that people have made need a home base where poeple can find them easer.
Again, I love this site, im just thoughing ideas on how to make the site i love better
btw im a he
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SigmaNunki I just took a look at the root of your site. I am humbled by your programming. The extent of what I know is PHP (and not all that well, I guess you could call me an beginning-advanced PHP programmer (oxymoron? lol)). You sir(? appolgys if not) are a programmer.
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I love this site, I have since the first moment I saw it.
I think the usability is pretty high; the layout is simple and it's easy for me to find what I need. The black background is easy on the eyes, too. And I am very familiar with google and have no problem using it. Also, before the site crashed, the archives could be viewed as one unending page and a simple 'edit, search' could find what you were looking for. I'm sure the archives will be back at some point, and like I said I have no problem using google.
Ok, so I'm fairly computer literate, but I'm certainly not the most computer literate person I know.
I'd like the site to not crash anymore, but really that's the only issue I have with it.
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