THE FORSAKEN - 7800° Fahrenheit
POSTED BY: PhoenixRose
UPDATED: Saturday, September 16, 2006 03:33
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Look at all the Forsakeny goodness. Kinda lost here. Just wanted to say "Hi".
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Fellow Forsaken!
Things in Tristan-land have gotten a bit busy...I won't be on much this week. I'll miss y'all! Have fun for me.
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Ok don't you just love the snap judgement based on appearances??? ARGH! Went into faculty room to eat lunch. ( preface this by saying I am wearing jeans, a black shirt that's modestly scoop necked with lattice high up on the back, though still quite modest, black loafers, silver hoop earrings, a few silver rings, my wedding ring, and dark red nail polish/lipstick)
I'm happily eating lunch and discussing with Lauren how I went to the greek festival this weekend. One of the older teachers says " well that's because you're greek" ( ok I really do not look greek) I mention I'm not. we continue talking and I ask Lauren how the set up for picture day is going. Then I bemoan my forever forgetting picture day and not looking good. And the same older gent says" Well all you'd need is to wear that outfit with your black lipstick and you'll be fine , right." Kinda annoyed that this guy has already determined my ethnicity ( incorrectly)and decided I'm a goth ( which I am not) without ever even having a conversation with me.
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
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Originally posted by PaganPaul:
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So why would anyone want to ban a book on Wicca? B]
Because people are stupid!
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I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Originally posted by PaganPaul:Quote:First, this type of book is not a story - it's a Religious Education text.
Originally posted by Kelkhil:
I am surprised that they allow a Wiccan book in a school library. Kinda weird concidering all you hear about are the stories they want banned from schools.
Second, would you expect the Koran to be banned from the school libraries? Or the teachings of Buddha? Or the Egyptian Book of the Dead? The Morman Texts? How about the Old Testament? Of course not!
So why would anyone want to ban a book on Wicca? It is just another belief system, and just as valid as any of the others I've listed above. If you ban one, you will have to ban them all.
Guess I gave off the wrong impression and I apologise for that PP. What I meant to say was that they are banning books for really stupid reasons. So I was surprised that this one did not make their list. While I realize and fully accept Wicca as a religion alot of people do not. I have a few Wiccan friends who tolerate my Agnostic views.
I think this still comes off as wrong but it is the only way I can think to explain it.
Kelkhil
The Shirtless Forsaken
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Originally posted by msg:
Ok don't you just love the snap judgement based on appearances??? ARGH! Went into faculty room to eat lunch. ( preface this by saying I am wearing jeans, a black shirt that's modestly scoop necked with lattice high up on the back, though still quite modest, black loafers, silver hoop earrings, a few silver rings, my wedding ring, and dark red nail polish/lipstick)
I'm happily eating lunch and discussing with Lauren how I went to the greek festival this weekend. One of the older teachers says " well that's because you're greek" ( ok I really do not look greek) I mention I'm not. we continue talking and I ask Lauren how the set up for picture day is going. Then I bemoan my forever forgetting picture day and not looking good. And the same older gent says" Well all you'd need is to wear that outfit with your black lipstick and you'll be fine , right." Kinda annoyed that this guy has already determined my ethnicity ( incorrectly)and decided I'm a goth ( which I am not) without ever even having a conversation with me.
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
Lead me to these people MsG. For I shall smite them with my Stupid Smiter. That is to say it smites the stupid not that IT is stupid...
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Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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thanks FMF:) It wasn't overly upsetting or anything, just irritating as it seems to be a common thing at this school:)
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
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Quote:Kelkhil, I didn't mean to pick on you or make you think I had taken offense, it's just that I find this issue to be a personal pet-peeve.
Originally posted by Kelkhil:
I think this still comes off as wrong but it is the only way I can think to explain it.
Kelkhil
There's a group of "Antiquers" in my area that says a prayer at each of their meetings, but voted NOT to allow any type of prayer other than christian. This was a 25 to 24 vote taken almost exactly 5 years ago right after 9/11, and the other 24 members have been trying to change this ever since.
I believe that if someone is going to allow one religious group to express themselves, then they should allow ALL other groups as well.
This is also my thinking about teaching "creation theory" in schools. Great, go ahead and teach the christian creation story, but don't forget to include the Chineese one, the Iroquois story, the ancient Egyptian mythos, the Norse Gods vs Frost Giants, etc. Anything less is just one group bullying everyone else who is not a member.
Sorry if you thought that my ire was directed at you personally - it was not meant to be.
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Quote:*sigh* How come my teachers never looked like that? I'm picturing how you must look in my mind, but I'm still at work so I'll have to stop before I need to go to my bunk!
Originally posted by msg:
I am wearing jeans, a black shirt that's modestly scoop necked with lattice high up on the back, though still quite modest, black loafers, silver hoop earrings, a few silver rings, my wedding ring, and dark red nail polish/lipstick
Seriously, I would have just given him an icy look, and then explained that Greeks like you rarely dress up all Gothified unless it's the weekend, and he should mind his own f
ing business. 
I've come to the conclusion that most people will, unfortunately, continue to make snap judgments based on all sorts of things, and that there is not a lot that can be done about it.
People still often assume that "Pagan" means sacrificing small animals and participating in depraved sexual escapades with unwilling virgins. The only way I've figured out to dispel that belief is to reassure them that the virgins are not unwilling, and then just walk away.
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Originally posted by PaganPaul:
This is also my thinking about teaching "creation theory" in schools. Great, go ahead and teach the christian creation story, but don't forget to include the Chineese one, the Iroquois story, the ancient Egyptian mythos, the Norse Gods vs Frost Giants, etc. Anything less is just one group bullying everyone else who is not a member.
I agree with you whole-heartedly here. Being in Georgia, I know that this will come up when my kids are in school, and I am almost looking forward to it. I plan to give someone (or several someones) as hard a time as I can until people realize that freedom of religion does not mean being able to choose your own denomination of Christianity. (for reference, I am an athiest, but was brought up Methodist for 20ish years).
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Originally posted by PaganPaul:
People still often assume that "Pagan" means sacrificing small animals and participating in depraved sexual escapades with unwilling virgins. The only way I've figured out to dispel that belief is to reassure them that the virgins are not unwilling, and then just walk away.
I think you just became my personal hero, at least for the week. Shiny. :)
~Jimi
jimi dot spettel at gmail dot com
Self-Proclaimed Grand Vizier of Georgia
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