Angel and Hell
POSTED BY: Dewrastler
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 14:24
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Originally posted by 13:
I think the First brought back Angel...
Actually, I think my take on it was that The First was trying to make Angel believe that he was brought back to do evil but then when he tried to commit suicide by waiting for the sun to rise....there was an unprecendented California snowstorm which prevented the sun's rays from reaching him. This snowstorm, I believe, was attributed to the intervention of The Powers That Be. (which was alluded to on Angel)
Does that make any sense?!?!? LOL
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This suggests to me that the First did not in fact bring Angel back, but simply tried to seize an opportunity.
The Powers That Be (not named in BtVS) seem responsible, but the event of Angel's return is never directly explained.
22
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Originally posted by 22Claws:
This suggests to me that the First did not in fact bring Angel back, but simply tried to seize an opportunity.
The Powers That Be (not named in BtVS) seem responsible, but the event of Angel's return is never directly explained.
22
I could have sworn it was explained in season 2 of Angel. Oh well, I still think the powers that be brought him back.
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Thats just it, I watched season 2 last spring and don't remember anything about it. The only reason I brought it up now is because I heard mention of it from Spike in season 5. Maybe I missed it.
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it happened on Buffy's season 2...
have you watched all of Buffy yet?
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Angel's return is definitly not explained or included in BtVS.
22
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Originally posted by 22Claws:
Angel's return is definitly not explained or included in BtVS.
22
we may have a lack of communication here...
I was under the impression that Dewrastler was saying that Angel's decent into hell (and return) was mentioned in Ats S5 and didn't understand the details,
and I was pointing out that the DECENT into Hell was caused by Buffy in BtVS S2 (not in Ats S2), which is what I thought was causing the confusion....
of course I may have just been adding to the confusion if in fact Dewrastler has seen all of Buffy.... hense my follow up question about whether on not all episodes of 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' had been viewed.
But I agree w/you, 22, I never felt that Angel's return from Hell was adequately explained....
the implication that that TPTB just brought him back, just as Buffy was trying to put him behind her, is too much a plot devise for my liking....
The idea that the First brought him back in the hopes of manipulating him into killing everyone is interesting, and might fit w/the facts, but of course wasn't ever really given any follow-through.
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Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
short version - Angel had a moment of true happiness (with Buffy - happy 18th) and lost his soul again. Cue Angelus. (and subtext about losing virginity equating with big evil, blah blah)
Heh, I always thought the subtext was less about losing your virginity and more about sleeping with the guy who then turns bad.... Guy gets sex and then takes off, doesn't call, "goes bad".
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excuse my double posty-ness
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Actually I've never really watched Buffy, just caught a few episodes. That's the cause of my lack of background knowledge and why I was asking. To everyone who has replied, thanks for the help you have been able to provide. I'm glad I'm not the only one confused.
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