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What does Support the Troops mean?

POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Friday, September 8, 2006 04:10
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Friday, September 1, 2006 4:06 PM

If that's what support the troops means to you Hero, then why do you vote Republican?

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From the refusal to allow service members immunity to the new bankruptcy laws,

from the reduction of all things to do with veterans assistance, including slashing the budget dealing brain injuries by half, which would effect over 100,000 soldiers. Why do the rich need a tax cut again?


from the unwillingness to get service men the best equipment and best living conditions that can be given, contracting companies like haliburton that somehow managed to give our soldiers water contaminated with fecal matter.

from the constant and absolutely heinous stop-lossing of soldiers and recalls that attempts to minimize the burden on the population as a whole by avoiding the unpopular draft,and instead putting the entire burden on these few people who have already served, who have already sacrificed, and should get to come home as heroes already, "Hero."


- to the insistance that we need to mischaracterize this war for the american people, miscaracterize the danger, and so, underplay the sacrifice of these soldiers, outright dishonor their names by lying even about how they died,

that we need to obscure how many died, and should get angry and call it aiding the terrorists when somebody points out the number of american sacrifices...

there's a lot more

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Friday, September 1, 2006 4:13 PM

It's quite simple, Support the Troops means never ever disagreeing with anything that the military is doing, because doing so insults the people that are fighting for our freedom (even when they're not fighting for our freedom at the present time)

OOOH, and sometimes, it means putting a pretty ribbon shaped bumper sticker on your car, yay!

"Haha, mine is an evil laugh."

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Friday, September 1, 2006 4:29 PM

And that 'root for the home team' argument is
really sad, Hero. Root or be silent? really? Isn't THAT how fascism happens? Weren't all the Germans good 'supporters' during WWII? If nobody is supposed to speak out, then we just have to wait until foreign countries put us in check, because to do so ourselves would be unpatriotic? Carazy, man.

We honor our soldiers by continuing to ask whether we are asking them to sacrifice in vain, we honor them by laboring over whether our cause is good enough that we should be putting our bravest in harms way -- we honor them by treating them like a precious American resource that should not be risked lightly.

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Friday, September 1, 2006 5:28 PM

I would hope supporting the troops means NOT using them as bait 'over there' so the US can party-on 'over here'.

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Friday, September 1, 2006 7:48 PM

It means: "Don't let your troops droop."

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Friday, September 1, 2006 7:48 PM

It means: "Don't let your troops droop."

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Friday, September 1, 2006 8:00 PM

It means - Understand that the troops have a crappyass job to do. One that they did not create, one that they would rather not do, but one that they agreed to do. Appreciate that they get paid no money to do this job and that they leave their loved ones for months and years to go to a country where they are being targeted, where they live in substandard conditions and where they would rather not be.

Support the troops is not and should not be a politcal thing. And George should be ashamed of himself EVERYTIME he tries to politicize the American Soldier and the American military family.


Sorry Military and the quality of life for the Military member and their families is a particular hot button of mine.


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Friday, September 1, 2006 8:35 PM

This might upset a few folk, but that's ok..

The only troops I directly* support are the ones who said "Up yours, Sir."

No matter how you wanna wrangle it in legalese, Congress did not issue a formal declaration of war against Iraq, and truthfully had neither cause nor reason to do so, because regardless of what Faux news tells the ignorant hicks, Saddam had nothing whatever to do with 9-11.

Congress can NOT legally abdicate this responsibility, at least not without a full-on Constitutional Amendment to modify the procedure for declaring war, and there's a reason for that, and we're staring it in the face right now.

IF Congress had declared war, THEN they would have to face the angry constituents they pissed off by doing so, and thus in cowardly fashion just rolled over like a whipped puppy and let the Executive Branch do whatever the hell it pleased.

Sorry for the background, but it's needful for complete understanding of the position some are taking.

No, I don't support someone who was told to do something illegal, that violated their Oath of Service, who then did it out of fear of the consequences of obeying that Oath.

It's like the military played on the Milgram Experiment, with a side order of fear - no matter what they mumble quietly about illegal orders in orientation, anyone unwilling to obey even the most ludicrous of orders is either quickly run out, or conditioned to do so.

Think on this, if the bastards sending out kids into this meatgrinder while polishing chairs in washington could not get them to GO - would this have happened ?

No, sorry, I don't support em.

-Frem


*As is well known, that being said, I do indirectly support them via care packages, post-discharge counselling, and the like, just because I disagree with and do not support someone else's decisions, I am not going to cease regarding them as a human being.
After all, I'm not a republican.

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Friday, September 1, 2006 11:29 PM

I was in the Army for three years.

I guarantee you that absent a reporter's camera in their face, 99 out of 100 GIs will tell you that Support the Troops means:

Send me into battle to protect my country when necessary.
Give me a clear goal.
Bring me home the second I'm done.
Don't mess with my mail or my chow or my paycheck.

That's it.

"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"

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Friday, September 1, 2006 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
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