How does the 'verses money work?

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DAVESHAYNE

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
I guess I just find that slightly depressing, is all. I'm a big gamer, and I would really like to see an official video game made based on the 'Verse.

I don't see how things being canon/not canon would affect the possibility of a game being produced? I would only say that if a Serenifly game was made but had little to no Joss input I would tend to not call it canon. Wouldn't mean that it wasn't a good game or anything just not something to be used to prove points in discusion.

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I know people who absolutely detest "Heart of Gold", and don't consider it canon since it wasn't written or directed by Joss (written by Brett Matthews and directed by Thomas J. Wright).

By that very odd argument Bushwacked is not canon. Nor is Shindig, Safe, Jaynestown, Out of Gas, Ariel, War Stories, or Trash.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:34 PM

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I don't see how things being canon/not canon would affect the possibility of a game being produced?

It strikes me that if Universal (and/or Fox) gets it in their head that the only thing fans will accept are projects in which Joss had a direct role, that could severely limit what they greenlight. Chances are they aren't even paying close enough attention to the fan base to notice one way or another, but I for one would hate it if an exec was sitting somewhere going "Hm, yeah, we could make a game [or novel or cartoon or whatever] based on this Firefly thing. But hm, the fans only seem interested if Joss is involved, and Joss is off making Wonder Woman, so I guess we'll have to shelve the idea."

In threads about bringing the show back or getting a sequel to Serenity, people often point out that Joss is busy with other projects, so nothing is going to happen for a few years at least. If it were a spin-off project not led by Joss, we could get more 'Verse sooner. I guess I'm just saying that I would hate for us to lose our shot at something, anything in the Firefly 'Verse, even if it means a project that Joss isn't directly involved with. That said, I do understand why people other than me would want Joss involved in whatever comes next.

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By that very odd argument Bushwacked is not canon. Nor is Shindig, Safe, Jaynestown, Out of Gas, Ariel, War Stories, or Trash.

Hehe, I didn't say it was my argument! Honestly, I think they just dislike Heart of Gold and use that argument to justify why its ok to pretend it never happened. My point was just, to each their own. Everyone has their own opinion of what is or isn't canon.

~CK

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BAD2VERSE

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by blackbeanie:
Simon was going on about platnums or something, and there's bits and credits...Can anyone explain?

I've wondered about that also... I read somewhere that the serenity Cargo bay could hold as much as 10 transfer trucks (Or maybe that was the total size of the ship, I don't remember, this "Not Smoking" makes my head fuzzy ;)

Anyway, I have friends that Own Transfer trucks, and I know it costs them a LOT to operate.. so I have often wondered how "Firefly" makes money carrying small cargoes.. it'd have to be VERY valuable, since about the only time I've seen the cargo bay "Full" was when they were transporting cattle, and that would be some EXPENSIVE cattle if it was their only cargo.

I can see them using "Platinum" as payment since the payoffs would have to be HUGE to keep the ship operating, and tossing a small bag of Coinage over as "Payment" would almost certainly have to be Platinum (Assuming it's valued the same as on Earth, and taking into account many hundreds of years of increasing value... There's a finite amount of Platinum, so it's value increases as more people are born that want it).

Of course using Gold OR Platinum, the bags would be MUCH heavier (Platinum is only slightly less heavy than Gold).. so either they are doing the usual "a man can easily lift a 100 pound gold bar in the movies" routine, or Mal is pretty Damned strong ;)

Sorry, Economics fascinates me, and Even if it's by accident, the FF series seems to have taken all that into "account" (pun intended).

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DAVESHAYNE

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
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I don't see how things being canon/not canon would affect the possibility of a game being produced?
It strikes me that if Universal (and/or Fox) gets it in their head that the only thing fans will accept are projects in which Joss had a direct role, that could severely limit what they greenlight.

Depends on the project. For things like games, novels, and the like there is no fan expectation of Joss involvement - hey Lucas doesn't program the Jedi Knight games or write the EU novels - and consequently it doesn't matter if we would call it canon or not the marketability of the game/book would be about the same. But a new TV series or movie without Joss would run the risk of not being Serenifly at all which I hope everybody involved bears in mind.

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Everyone has their own opinion of what is or isn't canon.

This is true.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

BAD2VERSE

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:12 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
it folds

What is that from (If I may ask)? I assume it's a game or something?

It looks a LOT like Chinese or Korean Money.. I deal with Clients around the world, and frequently they pay in "Cash", if it's a small job I usually don't bother to get it converted, since I travel a lot and may end up spending it there anyway ;)

I have found that in many places, the "paper money" is like our Change here in the USA, and the "Coins" are larger denominations (Like our "Bills").. which makes a certain amount of sense, you don't want your "larger denominations" wearing out so quickly, whereas the "easily printable" stuff is fast and cheap to knock out as "Change", AND it's MUCH harder to counterfeit a "Coin" than it is paper money.

So I guess it makes sense that they'd make it look "Oriental" since the two cultures have merged in the 'verse of FireFly ;)
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EMBERS

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:19 AM

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Originally posted by bad2verse:

What is that from (If I may ask)? I assume it's a game or something?

this is prop money made specifically for the movie
they gave it away during a convention while the movie was being made as a promotional item,
and you'll see pictures of it in the book
Serenity: the Visual Companion

and it does fold....

BAD2VERSE

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:26 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
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Originally posted by bad2verse:

What is that from (If I may ask)? I assume it's a game or something?

this is prop money made specifically for the movie
they gave it away during a convention while the movie was being made as a promotional item,
and you'll see pictures of it in the book
Serenity: the Visual Companion

and it does fold....

That is just TOO cool... Great, now I gotta hit e-bay and find out who is selling there's ;)
Thanks!

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BAD2VERSE

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:20 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
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Originally posted by bad2verse:

What is that from (If I may ask)? I assume it's a game or something?

this is prop money made specifically for the movie
they gave it away during a convention while the movie was being made as a promotional item,
and you'll see pictures of it in the book
Serenity: the Visual Companion

and it does fold....

WOW.. On E-bay it's selling for 90-115 bux.. framed and "Authenticated". It's The prop money from "The Bank Heist"... Hang on to it, Embers, it's got value! That's 170-200+ bux in your hands there... a few more years and it may be worth face value ;)

Thanks again.

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EMBERS

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:25 AM

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Originally posted by bad2verse:

WOW.. On E-bay it's selling for 90-115 bux.. framed and "Authenticated". It's The prop money from "The Bank Heist"... Hang on to it, Embers, it's got value! That's 170-200+ bux in your hands there... a few more years and it may be worth face value ;)

unfortunately those aren't MY hands....
but those of another lucky Browncoat.

I wonder how the people selling on eBay 'authenticated' theirs?

BAD2VERSE

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:39 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
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Originally posted by bad2verse:

WOW.. On E-bay it's selling for 90-115 bux.. framed and "Authenticated". It's The prop money from "The Bank Heist"... Hang on to it, Embers, it's got value! That's 170-200+ bux in your hands there... a few more years and it may be worth face value ;)

unfortunately those aren't MY hands....
but those of another lucky Browncoat.

I wonder how the people selling on eBay 'authenticated' theirs?

It's from a company called "The prop Store" in London.. very reputable, I've dealt with them before..

They handle selling off movie props from just about ANY movie you can think of.. EXCEPT Lord Of The Rings.. They Destroyed ALL of their props so there wouldn't be any "Fakes on E-bay".

I was looking at buying a Sword that was being offered as "Aragorn's sword from the movie", and the "The Prop Store" people e-mailed me with that tidbit, cause he was trying to say he had it authenticated from "The Prop Store"... ANNNNk, he didn't... I had a Sword Maker make me an exact replica (working) for about a quarter of the price the faker was trying to get for his..

I later found out that they are sold online for about 50 bux (Cheapo imitations).. Ebay pulled his Listing after that.

But if "The Prop Store" sells it, it's the real deal, they go great lengths to get the props DIRECTLY from the Movie Companies.. they often have contracts for the items they want before the movie is even finished.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SERENITY-Bank-Heist-Money-Display-ORIGINAL-PROP_W0
QQitemZ140009802936QQihZ004QQcategoryZ60360QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I usually only deal with The Prop Store for authentic movie stuff, there are a LOT of fakers and counterfeiters out there. My "Conan Sword" Came from the Prop store (And as I said in another post, you almost have to be "Ah-nold" to lift the dang heavy thing ;)

(The top Sword is an Original from "Conan" and the bottom is a replica I had made of Aragorn's sword from LOTR)
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