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2 by 2 Hands of Blue

POSTED BY: lostdog
UPDATED: Monday, September 4, 2006 14:56
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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:00 PM

`or better yet, 2 by 2 hands me a brew

Anyway, so I was watching the Ariel episode the other night and it made me wonder about something. You know when the 2 by 2 guys are chasing Jayne, River and Simon through the hospital? Well, when they used that device to kill those people and make their eyes and hands bleed(that device that looks like those things that were kept in the freezer and when you cracked them they glowed, what were those called? I digress as usual.) Well, why weren't those guys affected by that device? Did they have something in their ears other than ear wax? Or was it not a sound thing? Next time, I will have to look closer.

Simon: "What about cortical electrodes?"
Jayne: "Oh...We forgot 'em."

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:13 PM

You mean glowsticks?




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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by lostdog:

what were those called?




Don't think anyone knows.


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Well, why weren't those guys affected by that device?




B/c it doesn't work that way?


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Originally posted by lostdog:

Did they have something in their ears other than ear wax? Or was it not a sound thing?




I don't think that it'd be a sound thing as the ones affected didn't cover there ears. They just started to be affected, and then pain, and then dead.

EDIT: I believe that this is the only ep that these weapons were used in. So, it's unlikely that anyone knows anything about them i.e. what-ever anyone says is going to be pure conjecture.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:19 PM

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You mean glowsticks?






Yes. Glowsticks. HELLO. Thank you.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:50 PM

Conclusively speaking-

Absolutely no idea. Whedon's particular genius is to leave open certain areas of the plot. In this case the Hands of Blue was left completely open. Now, the great part about this is that it leaves it open in case he ever wishes to comeback and expand upon it. Now wether or not this is the genius of Whedon, or simply a hole left by a prematurely ended season no one can tell...except Joss.

Lets just hope a Season 2 will happen in some form and fill in the gaps.

The Facts (true stuff)

They travel in the latest of craft.
(Ariel)

They track anything or anyone possibly related to River Tam (Train Job)

We can also assume that the 'Hands of Bue have methods of nullifying the devices effects by some method.
(Ariel)

They use the device to kill potential witnesses of River and/or her abilities.
(Ariel)

They wear 'Blue' gloves.
(Train Job)

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Conclusion

"Hands of Blue" were to be the main threat to at least the Tam's at some point in the future of the season. There weapons were menacing and alien in nature, and only Mr. Whedon, (or his various minions) will ever be able to tell us who and what they were, how they were ted to the Tam's and what sort of weapon they were using.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:23 PM

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`or better yet, 2 by 2 hands me a brew

Well, why weren't those guys affected by that device?




Same reason nobody's blood boils in Batman Begins.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:44 PM

What, you never saw "Scanners"?

I think the guys are psychic to a degree, and the gadget just amplifies their abilities "I can kill you with my brain"...



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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:32 AM

This is just a guess. But their behavior isn't natural. They act like cyborgs or droids. So if the device attacks livings creatures it may not have an effect on them because they are machines.

Have to wait for second season to find out.

Traveler

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:56 AM

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Or was it not a sound thing? Next time, I will have to look closer.



I always figured it was some form of vacum device considering River's morbid and creepifying, "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds given adequate vacuming systems," speech from Safe. But even if it's a sound thing it could be a directional effect or maybe the hands of blue have some kind of defense against the attack that we aren't shown. I doubt it's a regular earplug thing since they are talking to the bellboy guy before they decide to drain him and they don't seem to be having difficulties hearing.

David

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:06 AM

They show blood coming out of the bellboy's fingernails. So it attacks more than just ears or sinuses. It may be that it only effects those in front of the device and the men in blue are safe because they stand behind the device.

Traveler

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