How does the 'verses money work?
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UPDATED: Thursday, August 31, 2006 01:00
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So - Universal wanted an RPG and hired these folks? Or these folks wrote it and contacted Universal for permission before they could publish?
Not really sure why I'm curious. Just am!
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
So - Universal wanted an RPG and hired these folks? Or these folks wrote it and contacted Universal for permission before they could publish?
Not really sure why I'm curious. Just am!
I'm not privy to the details of the business dealings between MWP and Universal but my understanding is that the RPG companies are usually the ones who begin the process. There really isn't a lot of money to be made out of RPGs so the suits at the studios rarely give it much thought. Which leaves the fans in the RPG community to get the ball rolling on these kinds of liscence deals.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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Quote:I find it kind of odd to say that an officially licensed product isn't "official official". What's the standard for official then? It has to be written by Joss? Doesn't that severely limit the amount of official continuation of the 'Verse that we could get? If an official, licensed video game came out, would that also not be "official official"?
So it's not official official but it does closely track the 'Verse as we know it.
Personally, I draw the line of "official" between what is given the legal license to create something with the Firefly/Serenity Intellectual Property, and that which hasn't been officially, legally licensed. The Serenity RPG is official IMO. Done the Impossible is not. Both are useful and entertaining in their own ways, but if Universal (or Fox, for that matter) wants to give us tabletop RPGs, trading card games, video games, animated TV shows, or whatever, I'm more than happy to accept those as both official and canon. I don't need Joss's fingerprints on something for it to be official -- just as I don't need him to write or direct an episode to consider it "official".
Sorry, just struck me as odd that info from an official source wouldn't be considered official...
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
I don't need Joss's fingerprints on something for it to be official
Where as I tend to. Joss' involvement with the ancillary products is minimal so there is no guarantee that any given line or passage of text acurately reflects his artistic vision. So if some bit of information is only in the novelization or the RPG I am unlikely to give it the same status as things revealed in Firefly, Serenity, The Serenity OVC, or Serenity Those Left Behind or whatever information might become available in a sequel, additional comics, or a resurected series.
That having been said there really are only a few areas where the RPG creators went far beyond the information available in series or movie and most of those extrapolations feel right to me. I just don't think of them as necesarilly the truth.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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Let's not get into a Star Wars-ish canon/official debate.
To whit: the published Star Wars fiction in "official," but only Lucas' own stuff is "canon," so he can disregard the novels however he sees fit. This is a problem because (A) most of the "official" stuff ends up being better than the canon, and (B) Lucas doesn't work or play well with others, so he'll piss on the EU without even considering what others might've contributed.
I doubt this will be a problem in the Firefly 'verse, because Joss does play well with others (if he didn't, he would have stayed in film and not worked in television, and he'd likely be more famous than he is [this is what he gets for giving other people credit instead of hogging it all 
]). I'm not saying he'll hold himself to the same rules as everyone else, but I expect he has someone keeping track of the larger 'verse issues and who isn't afraid to advise him, as long as it's not a major plot point or anything.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I doubt this will be a problem in the Firefly 'verse, because Joss does play well with others (if he didn't, he would have stayed in film and not worked in television, and he'd likely be more famous than he is [this is what he gets for giving other people credit instead of hogging it all
well unfortunately I know that the Buffy novels (official licensed by Fox) were never run by Joss, he never read any of them, and they ended up being contradicted in the show...
things like how Spike was sired and what happened to his Mother....
but of course as fans we could over-look the contractions (Spike told a false tale to the writers of the novel)
but I'm afraid we run the risk of similar problems with the novels in Firefly, they may be fun to read, but they may also be contradicted at some future point by Joss' own comic books, or back story told in movie sequels (because I still assume we will eventually get them)
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Let's not get into a Star Wars-ish canon/official debate.
The debate should probably be had at some point however or there will be no real basis for answering questions like "How does the 'verse's money work?" Personally I will continue to mark anything I cite that's not from the series, comic, or movie as not necesarilly official and let others decide how much credence to give it.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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I guess I just find that slightly depressing, is all. I'm a big gamer, and I would really like to see an official video game made based on the 'Verse. I don't expect that Joss would drop his other projects to lead the development of a video game (or that he'd even want to get *that* involved with game development). But as long as Joss said he was happy with the game, and the game was an officially licensed product, I'd be happy.
Anyhow, I guess it's just a difference of opinion. I know people who absolutely detest "Heart of Gold", and don't consider it canon since it wasn't written or directed by Joss (written by Brett Matthews and directed by Thomas J. Wright). And I'm sure you aren't the only one who differentiates between canon and official licensed spin-offs. For me, official is official, and Joss saying publicly that he likes it is icing on the cake.
~CK
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Originally posted by traveler:
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On Earth platinum is very rare, so is very expensive, even against gold. I have never even seen the stuff.
Traveler
Now you have ;)
The Bar on the right is .999 silver (10 Ounces), the "Round" on the left is platinum (also 10 ounces).
Right now 10 ounces of silver is worth about $122 (That fluctuates GREATLY every day). The 10 Ounces of Platinum on the left is worth about $12,300 (That also fluctuates GREATLY each day).
Platinum has a "more silvery than Silver" look.. what you picture in your mind as "Silver" is closer to what platinum looks like... Silver Tarnishes rather fast when exposed to air so it doesn't always look as Shiny as you'd think...
Now I gotta go re-vacuum pack that Silver bar and re-open the safe ;)
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