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Underlying Sexual Tension

POSTED BY: Allisa
UPDATED: Monday, August 28, 2006 00:44
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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:31 AM


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Jayne has sexual tension with everyone on board,
it is his gift...
and his curse



Lol...wait, how is that a curse?

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:40 AM

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Originally posted by Romanceguru:

Lol...wait, how is that a curse?



oh you know, when Shepard Books crawls into bed w/Jayne in the middle of the night with his cold feet...

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:47 AM

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oh you know, when Shepard Books crawls into bed w/Jayne in the middle of the night with his cold feet...


LMAO! Now that’s sex appeal! Poor Book, he never gets any action!

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:57 AM

wow , Wow , WOW ! Starblaster , you truly are an Indigo ! It shows ! Brilliant analysis !

Only the sexual-tension fluid-potential thing is slightly too suggestive in a Freudian way , but other than that , the comments are perfect !


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Originally posted by IndigoStarblaster:
I think sexual tension is a fluid, there's-always-potential kind of thing.

You can be off the market generally (married, celibate by choice) or off the market for any particular person (not your type, too close a friend, a colleague and therefore a bad idea), but I think the awareness of possible sexual activity is always going to be there with someone you're not actively turned off by (immediate family, thug in a dark alley).

So, sure, there's going to be a little bit of the awareness of sex, and therefore a little bit of sexual tension, between Simon and Inara -- they speak the same language, they're both attractive, they're both available -- but they have no real desire to do anything about it, due to Simon's interest in Kaylee and Inara's friendship with Kaylee.

Ditto Kaylee and Jayne -- they're both single and attractive and available -- but they aren't really each other's type, so they won't do anything about it either.

And Jayne and River -- River's just coming into availableness, and of course Jayne is going to notice that, even if overall she isn't his type.

Mind you, people change, and people's desired types also change, so I wouldn't say that real attraction wouldn't develop between any of the above in the future -- just that right now, the sexual tension is of the below-threshold variety.

Interesting insight by the person who posted about the fact that Mal would see River as a daughter, and therefore feel actively repulsed by the idea of sex, whereas River is primely positioned for a crush on him. But then, that's part of the nature of a crush -- it's at least partly about calibrating one's sexual attractions and practising those feelings on a safely unavailable object of desire.

Anyway, just MHO,

Indigo S.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 7:42 PM

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Originally posted by Romanceguru:
Who are we missing… Oh, if Wash didn’t already complexly love Zoe, I think him and Kaylee would work well together.



I think this is the only point I agree with. I have often thought Wash and Kaylee would go well together if Wash and Zoe weren't already madly in love, married, and, well, amazing as a couple.

The others... I'm just not seeing.

As for Jayne and anyone... I think the original post said it best. (Jayne "would hump anything that moves.")

As for River and anyone... she's 17! As a fellow 17-year-old, I could see her having a crush of some sort on one of the guys... though I'm not sure who, since she does seem to have more of a father-daughter thing going on with Mal, and Jayne is, well, Jayne (crude, has tried to kill her, etc.)... but, don't you think they're a little old for her to actually have any kind of relationship, even purely sexual (hmm... that's a bit ironic), with any of them?



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Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:33 PM

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but, don't you think they're a little old for her to actually have any kind of relationship, even purely sexual (hmm... that's a bit ironic), with any of them?


This is just my personal opinion. I understand an age is an important factor in the believability of the pairing for some.

By the end of the BDM River is almost 18, and who knows how old she would have been when/if things finally developed. Kaylee is only 20 years old. That would make the age difference between her and Wash 11 years.

River is intelligent (regaining her sanity), mature and wise beyond her years. She is in no way a normal 17 year old. I believe her experiences’ (being a killer) has aged her beyond numbers. I personally think age isn’t as relevant (once your legal) and I’m sure it is not as imperative when you live in the black.

Love is blind, if two people were to fall for one another, I don’t think a power in the verse could stop them.

They also wouldn’t be the first fictional pair with an age gap.

As for Jayne trying to kill River, he never did. In Ariel, it’s true he tried to sell her for coin, but as you saw in Objects, when he said “I got stupid. The money was to good.” he did feel guilty about it.

In the BDM, when Jayne comes for River, he had said a scene earlier “We take a shuttle, we drop her off and we get ‘em off our backs -” and when he enters the storage locker “No trouble now little crazy person, we’re going for a nice shuttle ride-” Which supports (in his angry, drunken haze) he was planning on dropping her of somewhere, and was not going to kill her.

Most of Jayne’s anger towards River I believe is partly exaggerated (as are other character interactions) to add more tension and revisit themes from the series.

Yes, he is crude, but that fact never seems to faze her in the series, she actually looks amused. I think she would find him interesting because he speaks his mind.

It would also be interesting to see how falling in to a relationship, would affect both of their extreme personalities. I imagine hilarity would ensue!




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Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Romanceguru:
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but, don't you think they're a little old for her to actually have any kind of relationship, even purely sexual (hmm... that's a bit ironic), with any of them?


This is just my personal opinion. I understand an age is an important factor in the believability of the pairing for some.

By the end of the BDM River is almost 18, and who knows how old she would have been when/if things finally developed. Kaylee is only 20 years old. That would make the age difference between her and Wash 11 years.



Kaylee's only 20? I didn't know that. I thought she was at least a little older than that.

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River is intelligent (regaining her sanity), mature and wise beyond her years. She is in no way a normal 17 year old. I believe her experiences’ (being a killer) has aged her beyond numbers.



That is a very good point. She has gained some atypical maturity and wisdom from her experiences. I'm not sure I think intelligence is overly relevant, but, if it is, she certainly has that going for her, too. And, for me, it isn't so much the age gap... as much as it is the level of wisdom, experience, etc. of (most) 17-year-olds. (Meaning, a 17-year-old dating someone ten years older is a little different from a 30-year-old dating someone ten years old, IMO.) But, like you said, River is not exactly normal.

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In the BDM, when Jayne comes for River, he had said a scene earlier “We take a shuttle, we drop her off and we get ‘em off our backs -” and when he enters the storage locker “No trouble now little crazy person, we’re going for a nice shuttle ride-” Which supports (in his angry, drunken haze) he was planning on dropping her of somewhere, and was not going to kill her.



Another good point. I never realized he wasn't actually aiming to harm her in the BDM, only remove her from the ship. I do still think he could've, though... he did have a weapon and he was in an "angry, drunken haze"... not exactly the most sensible or healthy mind frame, particularly for someone who is an armed mercenary.

Anyway.... I personally still can't picture it. The thought of River being with any of the crew just doesn't work in my head and it would take some awful gorramn amazing acting and writing for me to believe it, seeing it on-screen (should it ever happen). Granted, we have one highly talented cast and crew... gotta love our BDHs! <3 ... but, still.



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Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:24 AM

Lisa37,
That is the great thing about our BDH, they are all so multifaceted and it’s anyone’s guess where things can go. I think River’s character is the most open for interpretation, she is unstable in mind and nature and I think everyone views her differently.


Oh, Here’s a link to the Firefly timeline, it has all of the characters DOB, except for Inara’s. http://www.fireflywiki.org/Firefly/FireflyTimeline


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Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:44 AM

Romanceguru,
Absolutely! Really, they could probably pull off anything Joss Whedon wanted to throw their way (and, of course, he would pull it off, too). I just don't think I could picture some of it until they did it. But, who knows?
And, River is very open to interpretation. So is a lot of the 'verse. I think that's part of why we all love it so much... it's nice when things in a movie or show aren't 100% entirely set in stone and each fan can look it through their own eyes, to an extent. It's more fun that way.



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Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:04 AM

Lisa 37,

So true!

In all honesty, I couldn't picture it either, or even had thought of River and Jayne as a possibility until I read my first fan fiction story. Then it just clicked. I've been hooked ever since. There are so many interpretations and directions thins can go.

I agree that seeing is believing! Until then...


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