RWE Survey: Where you stand at a glance
POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Thursday, August 24, 2006 01:46
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I am curious where RWErs stand on various controversial issues in one convenient post. (I culled these from past threads, then threw in some extra.) Content in parentheses suggest common positions, but are by no means the only possible positions. Feel free to diverge, add, or subtract.
ABORTION (prolife, prochoice):
AL-QAEDA THREAT (grave and imminent, exaggerated):
BUSH (pro, con):
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (pro, con):
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS (pancake, demolition, other):
CROP CIRCLES (manmade, paranormal):
ETs (exist, not):
GOD (theist, agnostic, atheist):
GLOBAL WARMING (manmade, not):
GUN CONTROL (pro, con):
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS (defensible, overboard):
PARANORMAL (exist, no):
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY (conservative, liberal, other)
TAXES (more, less):
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK (accidental, intentional):
WAR ON TERROR (defensible, overboard):
WAR IRAQ (necessary, contrived):
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I'll start.
ABORTION (prolife, prochoice): personally prolife, politically prochoice
AL-QAEDA THREAT (grave and imminent, exaggerated): artificially created
BUSH (pro, con): con
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (pro, con): con
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS (pancake, demolition): Dunno. Lean towards demolition.
CROP CIRCLES (manmade, paranormal): Dunno. Lean towards manmade (doesn't necessarily mean prank)
ETs (exist, not): Dunno. Lean towards not.
GOD / RELIGION (theist, agnostic, atheist): non-religious Christian
GLOBAL WARMING (manmade, not): Dunno. Lean towards not.
GUN CONTROL (pro, con): Very very con.
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS (defensible, overboard): Terrorist.
PARANORMAL (exist, no): Dunno. Lean very much towards exist.
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY (conservative, liberal, other): Libertarian
TAXES (more, less): abolish
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK (accidental, intentional): intentional
WAR ON TERROR (defensible, overboard): Crazy overboard.
WAR IRAQ (necessary, contrived): Crazy contrived.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky 
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I'll steal as many of your answers as I think apply to me, canttakethesky. 
Bearing in mind that I am by no means an expert, and these opinons are subject to change, here are my answers.
ABORTION (prolife, prochoice): personally prolife, politically prochoice
AL-QAEDA THREAT (grave and imminent, exaggerated): exaggerated
BUSH (pro, con): con
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (pro, con): con
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS (pancake, demolition): pancake
CROP CIRCLES (manmade, paranormal): manmade
ETs (exist, not): not
GOD / RELIGION (theist, agnostic, atheist): atheist
GLOBAL WARMING (manmade, not): mostly not
GUN CONTROL (pro, con): Very, very pro.
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS (defensible, overboard): crazy much?
PARANORMAL (exist, no): not a chance
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY (conservative, liberal, other): no idea
TAXES (more, less): abolish
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK (accidental, intentional): not a clue
WAR ON TERROR (defensible, overboard): Crazy overboard.
WAR IRAQ (necessary, contrived): Crazy contrived.
EDITED because something was explained (see below).
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Interesting. I don't get down here much, but I'll throw in my stance.
ABORTION: Pro-choice
AL-QAEDA THREAT: Exaggerated.
BUSH: Still not my President.
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT: Pro. For some things.
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS (pancake, demolition, other): You mean there's argument over whether it was being hit by a big gorramn plane or something else? I would say, from what I quite vividly remember, that they collapsed from the top down in a horrifying manner.
CROP CIRCLES: Both; many are manmade, some are unexplainable. I used to be fascinated with them.
ETs: Sure. Maybe they haven't visited (though I think that might be possible too) but somewhere out there I'm sure there's another planet teeming with life.
GOD: Earth-worship (more or less) also seeking personal enlightenment/contact with the divine. However you want to define the divine, I think it's all the same thing.
GLOBAL WARMING: I think there are many factors, not the least of which are man made.
GUN CONTROL: I see nothing wrong with reasonable gun control. Maybe a license of some kind. Just as you have to prove you can handle a car without accidentally killing someone, I think the same should hold true for guns. Nothing beyond that, though, I understand and respect why the 2nd exists.
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS: totally overboard.
PARANORMAL: Sure.
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY: I'm more liberal most of the time, but there are a few traditional conservative ideas I can get behind (the ones that have nothing to do with religion)
TAXES: Less, with better and more sensible usage thereof.
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK: I don't know about that one. Another age-old conspiracy theory.
WAR ON TERROR: Ridiculous.
WAR IRAQ: Contrived and also ridiculous.
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta
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COLLAPSE OF THE WTC TOWERS. Pancake refers to natural collapse of the floors like a stack of pancakes when the planes hit them. Demolition refers to an alternative explanation that the collapse wasn't caused by aircraft impact, but by a demolition job.
Sorry I wasn't clear about that.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
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As a long-time lurker (maybe a year or so) and an avid fan of Firefly and this particular board (RWE) I find it odd that this will be my first post (or nearly so), but I will bite:
ABORTION (prolife, prochoice): personally prolife, politically state-choice
AL-QAEDA THREAT (grave and imminent, exaggerated): not entirely exaggerated (there are people that want to kill us), but definitely a tool of DT's 'evil' crowd to produce a response from the general public
BUSH (pro, con): overall con, but I think he believes things and tries (which is admirable whether I disagree with his beliefs or not), unfortunately I view him as a tool for use by other people so what he believes are not necessarily his own thoughts
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (pro, con): pro because there are times when I would do the killing myself so I cannot in good conscience oppose a state's choice to do so either
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS (pancake, demolition, other): other as I cannot accept either hypothesis (and that's what they are); what happened that day was bad for the few involved and worse for everyone else that cared, other than that I have no clue despite 'evidence' on each side of the issue
CROP CIRCLES (manmade, paranormal): unfortuately (since I enjoy HK's posts) I do not care, but would lean toward manmade if forced to define a position (pending further information - filling my own lack of data about what other people already 'know' as well as a possible future interesting theory coming into the light)
ETs (exist, not): again, do not care (which may be sad) but willing to listen
GOD (theist, agnostic, atheist): theist in my personal life but not a practicing Christian in the 'organized religion' sense
GLOBAL WARMING (manmade, not): not sure, but lean toward natural cyclic changes with perhaps a nudge by man's influences (volcanos produce a helluva lot of these 'greenhouse gases' that everyone keeps floating around as manmade influences)
GUN CONTROL (pro, con): I like Firefly... that should explain my point of view, but in case it doesn't I'll just say, if you can't defend what you 'own' then you don't 'own' anything whether you feel like a baseball bat is enough or if you need a Series 70 Model 1911 A1 then that's your business; I own guns and will continue to do so whether the government says I can or not
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS (defensible, overboard): I waffle on this as in some ways I sympathize with the 'we are surrounded' mentality, but sometimes I wonder why they have that mentality and do not sympathize
PARANORMAL (exist, no): exists (I'm a theist so I have to accept after-life as having existence and all that may or may not imply) this would include psychic phenomena as well as the whole 'ghosts' thing
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY (conservative, liberal, other): old-school conservative (definitely not neo-con), and as such have to vote Libertarian since I often can't find conservatives in either of the two-party system's choices
TAXES (more, less): none, I've got the sense that it is mostly unconstitutional as levees and tariffs were the original means of providing the federal government with the money to perform their duties (explicitly stated in the Constitution) and since the expansion of the government's income (taxes) has promoted it's growth it has produced more societal problems than it has 'solved'
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK (accidental, intentional): intentional, however the question remains whether it was justified or not; I lean toward justified though I would have to say as an American it was an affront and deserved retribution, but objectively I'd be upset that some other country was spying on my war
WAR ON TERROR (defensible, overboard): it is as overboard as the war on drugs... i'm anti-drugs and anti-terror but both 'Wars On' aren't really focused on stopping either of their targets but are really about power acquisition by forces that DT would name as 'evil'
WAR IRAQ (necessary, contrived): neither... Iraq was a threat to an agenda so it was not contrived, I however disagree with that agenda so I wouldn't have felt it was nece
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Cool thread, canttakesky!
ABORTION: I believe a necessary condition for equality will be met when women are the sole deciders of if and when they become pregnant. This will involve education about and access to a whole spectrum of contraceptive techniques for both men and women, abortion being the most drastic.
AL-QAEDA THREAT: I do not believe that al-qaeda, and other terrorist organizations, can destroy the United States. They pose a threat but with judicious changes to our domestic security (tightening up port security, for example) we can minimize that threat (not eliminate it) while still maintaining our civil liberties. We also need to partner with moderate Muslims around the world to push these organizations even more towards the fringe.
BUSH: I believe, on the whole, that this country has taken many steps backward under the Bush administration.
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT: While I don't personally believe that the death penalty is necessary I also don't think it should be completely abolished. I do believe that our application of the death penalty has serious problems that need to be corrected.
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS: I believe that the two World Trade Center towers collapsed because of a sequence of events set in motion by the impact of airplanes. I do not believe that explosive charges were involved.
CROP CIRCLES: I haven't really thought about this much but I tend to fall into the, "people with too much time on their hands," camp.
ETs: Another topic I haven't spent too much time thinking about. My gut feeling is no.
GOD: I was raised to believe in a Creator and there will always be a part of me that takes comfort in believing what I grew up believing. However, it's something I purposefully don't think too much about.
GLOBAL WARMING: I think that we, as a species, are having an effect on global climate change that is accelerating natural trends. And the direction we are heading is one that will produce more strain on our ability to comfortably live on this planet.
GUN CONTROL: I think we need to make a distinction between rural and urban areas in whatever policy is out there. While I personally don't feel the need to own a firearm (and really don't see the need for handguns at all) I don't care what other people choose to buy, within reason.
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS: Anybody got an eleven foot pole?
PARANORMAL: I think that the five traditional senses only capture a fraction of the information that is available to be captured.
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY: Socially and fiscally liberal
TAXES: Less for the middle class. More for the upper class. Much more for the upper class.
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK: From a cursory reading it looks to me like the ship was in the wrong place, at least some of the Israeli military attacking the ship knew it was American, a decision was made by the US to hang the Libety out to dry and that the US government wanted to close the file on the incident as quickly and quietly as possible.
WAR ON TERROR: Mismanaged. And poorly named.
WAR IRAQ: Unneccessary. A colossal mistake. And a very costly one in human terms.
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ABORTION (prolife, prochoice):Prochoice.
AL-QAEDA THREAT (grave and imminent, exaggerated):Not exactly sure it's imminent, but it is there.
BUSH (pro, con):Con.
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (pro, con):Con, no one deserves death for a crime, I believe if we sentence someone to death it makes us no better than those who did the crime in the first place.
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS (pancake, demolition, other):Pancake, caused by two GIANT air-planes!
CROP CIRCLES (manmade, paranormal): Both I think, some just are inexplicable.
ETs (exist, not):Exist, SOMEWHERE.
GOD (theist, agnostic, atheist):Other, Taoist, I don't think God is deffinable.
GLOBAL WARMING (manmade, not):Manmade.
GUN CONTROL (pro, con):Pro, to a point.
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS (defensible, overboard):OVERBOARD.
PARANORMAL (exist, no):Exists.
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY (conservative, liberal, other)Liberal.
TAXES (more, less):Fewer taxes, better way to spend tax money.
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK (accidental, intentional):Not sure.
WAR ON TERROR (defensible, overboard): I don't think there's any REAL way to fight terror, you can get rid of one person, but once you do, more people will take their place.
WAR IRAQ (necessary, contrived):COMPLETELY UNnecessary.
JOSSIS(Most Definitely)AGOD
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Ok, fine, I'll play, since all of these answers are already obvious anyway.
ABORTION - No one's bizness but the couple involved, period.
AL-QAEDA THREAT - *snort* What threat ?
BUSH - Back to texas, his village is missing it's idiot.
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT - Wasteful, badly executed, uncessary as a gov't function.
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS - Unknown for sure, official story obvious BS.
CROP CIRCLES - Don't know, honestly don't care.
ETs - If they do, I hope they have the sense to avoid us, we're insane and dangerous.
GOD - None of your biz, everyone believes something different even in the same little pigeonholes, and is usually dishonest when asked what it is.
GLOBAL WARMING - Combination of natural factors accellerated by mankinds stupidity.
GUN CONTROL - None, personal defense and the lack thereof leads to social insanity.
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS - Malicious lunacy.
PARANORMAL - Bah, science just hasn't caught up, we know VERY little about the world and our universe, and there's more to it than we likely ever will.
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY - Anarchist.
TAXES - None, zero, zilch, especially when stuff is budgeted for projects the american public isn't even allowed to KNOW, much less express opinion on or vote on - that is what caused the rift between us and the Brits to begin with.
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK - Intentional, and aided by Johnson in some fashion.
WAR ON TERROR - Lunacy, might as well have a war on dandruff, or a war on flanking maneuvers.. you can't wage war against a tactic OF war, that's asinine.
WAR IRAQ - Needless, wasteful, stupid, and some bit of our fault to begin with for material and armament support of many of the factions involved.
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ABORTION (prolife, prochoice):personally prolife, politically pro choice
AL-QAEDA THREAT (grave and imminent, exaggerated):a threat, but not one that should hinder civil liberties
BUSH (pro, con):still would vote for him over the other guy, give me a better choice and that could change
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (pro, con):undecided
COLLAPSE WTC TOWERS (pancake, demolition, other):pancake
CROP CIRCLES (manmade, paranormal):a bit of both
ETs (exist, not):exist
GOD (theist, agnostic, atheist):theist, with deist leanings
GLOBAL WARMING (manmade, not):overall not
GUN CONTROL (pro, con):is using both hands
ISRAELI WAR TACTICS (defensible, overboard):defensible
PARANORMAL (exist, no):exists
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY (conservative, liberal, other)like to think of myself as an emerging libertarian
TAXES (more, less):less, don't think they can be abolished but should at least be made flat
USS LIBERTY 1967 ATTACK (accidental, intentional):don't know enought about it but seems like a conspiracy too far out for even paranoid old me
WAR ON TERROR (defensible, overboard):defensible, but should be handled better
WAR IRAQ (necessary, contrived): not necessary but that is irrelavent, we are there, we have to finish the job, even if the reason we are there is wrong, we still have to start what we finished
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