Crop Circles
POSTED BY: misbehaven
UPDATED: Friday, September 1, 2006 17:53
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Quote:Geez, Sarge. I feel for ya. I'd be peeved too. If I had to put up with someone else's delusion at work, I would probably find unempirical musings less than entertaining as well.
He's structured the entire hierarchy of the company based on a system of 'levels' of development that assumes the preeminence of mysticism and 'higher' states of consciousness. (ie confirms his own new-age religious convictions)...lately I've been more tempted to try to 'wake people up' a little.
I guess I should restate that I'm open to any damn thing, until someone tries to force it down my throat. Sets off my rebel instincts.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
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Originally posted by misbehaven:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not ET's, for certain.
Just curious, but why for certain?
It never got weird enough for me. -Hunter S. Thompson
I come from the Carl Sagan view of the Cosmos when it comes to ET's. Why would any 'intelligent' being spend so much time, energy and effort to travel to a backwards planet to swirl symbols in crops? Sending messages via radio makes far more sense.
I tend to think that there's life out there, somewhere. The Drake Equation and all that, ya know. But the odds of any intelligent life existing at THIS TIME and close enough for them to travel here , with in the few decades we've been able to travel in space and harness nuclear power, seems a bit far fetched.
Have one of the aliens drop his space wallet, or a space part fall off his ship, THEN I'll buy into the idea we're being visited.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Mice with too much time on their hands?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I come from the Carl Sagan view of the Cosmos when it comes to ET's. Why would any 'intelligent' being spend so much time, energy and effort to travel to a backwards planet to swirl symbols in crops? Sending messages via radio makes far more sense.
I tend to think that there's life out there, somewhere. The Drake Equation and all that, ya know. But the odds of any intelligent life existing at THIS TIME and close enough for them to travel here , with in the few decades we've been able to travel in space and harness nuclear power, seems a bit far fetched.
Have one of the aliens drop his space wallet, or a space part fall off his ship, THEN I'll buy into the idea we're being visited.
I tend to be skeptical of the whole alien thing myself, but there does seem to be a good deal of credible evidence. Also, I think the Drake Equation makes a good case for extraterrestrial life, and if even one photo, video, declassified report, etc. is actually true, then we're really not alone.
As for the crop circles, I tend agree with you, but I'm not sure I could say "for certain." However, it's rather difficult to imagine that even if aliens exist, they would be doodling in our crops. It just seems like a rather cryptic and indirect means of communication to me. Why not just land on the White House lawn or something? Anyway, I hope there's intelligent life out there somewhere, because (to quote Monty Python) "there's bugger all down here on Earth."
"It never got weird enough for me."
-Hunter S. Thompson
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I'd ike to find out if crop circles occur in areas where food is scarce like Sub-Saharan Africa or China. But not some white farmer's land in S Africa for example, but in a locale where every bit of food is important.
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Originally posted by rue:
I'd ike to find out if crop circles occur in areas where food is scarce like Sub-Saharan Africa ord China. But not some white farmer's land in S Africa for example, but in a locale where every bit of food is important.
I was listening to Coast to Coast when they were interviewing a crop circle researcher, and the host, Art Bell, asked him this very question. Apparently, they have been found in Africa, and a couple, which appear to be genuine, have even been found in the snow (I forget where). It seems where crops are lacking, the designs appear pressed roughly an inch or so into the desert floor or snow. He went on to say that these not only bear the standard electromagnetic signatures, they also show no signs of footprints or mechanical devices typically seen in fake circles.
Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.
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For anyone interested, the Coast to Coast guest's name is Freddy Silva, and the website is www.cropcirclesecrets.org. If you sign up for Streamlink on Coast to Coast, you can download mp3 or stream the entire broadcast. Their address is www.coasttocoastam.com The interview is worth a listen.
"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell
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Quote:The problem with the Drake Equation is the Drake Equation. The same astronomical enormity that makes it appear unlikely that intelligent life doesn’t exist somewhere also makes it just as unlikely that we will ever encounter them.
Originally posted by misbehaven:
I tend to be skeptical of the whole alien thing myself, but there does seem to be a good deal of credible evidence. Also, I think the Drake Equation makes a good case for extraterrestrial life, and if even one photo, video, declassified report, etc. is actually true, then we're really not alone.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Yep. That's problematic alright. They're either not there, or so far away we'll never be able to contact them.
"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell
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Just a note to Rue, and now Signy, and anyone else who thinks crop circles kill the grain. One of the characteristics of an authentic crop circle is that the plants are not harmed. They're clearly not mashed down with boards and in fact, though I can not verify this from personal experience, there is evidence that the grain within the circles grows taller and germinates more quickly than the surrounding plants.
Also there is the phenomenon of layering which I've seen that does not support the mashed down by mexicans theory.
If you only know crop circles from large arial photos on the web, you have no reason to think they are anything but pranks, I understand. But look a little deeper into the phenomenon and they are truly...what's the technical term? Ah yes: weird-ass.
Can anyone come up with anything resembling a reason for man-made crop circles to exist at all? I'm curious. People will say it's "art" but the hundreds (if not thousands) of artists it would have taken over the years to make these things would all have to be so wealthy that the temptation to go public and capitalize on their remarkable gifts never overcame their perverse will to work in silent anonymity all their lives, to say nothing of all the farmers and passers-by they'd be paying off to keep quiet; or for that matter, airfare, paying the mexicans, paying off local news agencies--and all for what? Some ooky-spooky mysterious symbols on the ground that they can never tell anyone they're responsible for?
Sergeant X suggested in the other thread that my b.s. meter must be "completely broken," but what about all the rest of your b.s. meters? Is the conspiracy required for the man-made theory acceptible to any of you?
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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