Religions/Beliefs of Browncoats
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Im a fallen christian. Which for all of you who dont speak vinterdraken means that I used to be christian and have a christian upbringing but had my faith janked out of me and lost it all somewhere along the way, now im mostly dissillusioned when it comes to religions, afterlife and such. All I have is this small grain of hope nurtured in the very heart of my being that there will be something somehow after this mortal husk finally gives in to time.
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I don't know that your post was that long Seryn. My post was awful long and I just discovered I spelled "believe" wrong through the whole thing. But I'm not about to count the words to see who is longest. You owe no one an apology. I have been told I'm going to hell because I don't believe in a "proper" religion. But you said it yourself, their are followers of Christian, Judian, and Islamic faiths that don't condemn. I have a friend who is of the Druid faith. Another who is a Christian minister and gay. The world has room for us all. I must admit I have never met so many athiests. We don't get many in these parts. But of course athiests don't exactly build a lot of churches do they. So I am probably surrounded by them and ignorant of it.
I'm saving myself up for the Santa Claus thread.
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Santa Claus? You mean FMF is getting another thread?
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I'm an eclectic solitary Wiccan. I was with a coven for a while, but we're all so busy that we hardly get together any more.
I believe that our rational and intuitive faculties can work together to give us a more complete picture of reality. Then again, I believe that reality is totally subjective. 
There's a Jewish folktale about religion I've loved ever since I first heard it. A spiritual seeker goes to a rabbi and says, "Explain your religion while standing on one foot. If you are still talking when you put your foot down, your religion is too complicated."
The rabbi lifted his foot and replied, "Treat others the way you would like to be treated. Everything else is extra."
So that's my short answer. For more info on my beliefs, read my spirituality blog at www.neopaganthoughts.blogspot.com
BTW, I too am really impressed by how cool this discussion has been.
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Hello Yinyang:
I noticed your post. Were you responding to me because I did not get an Email telling of your reply. Tristan sent a post not to long ago that he was not getting Emails informing him of replys and I'm wondering if that isn't happening to me.
I don't think anyone is going start a thread about Santa Claus. But In all seriousness the spirit of giving, that Santa Claus represents, is a nice thing to believe in.
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I like your spirituality blog cedric! thanks for linking.
And I have to say, this group has been the best I've ever discussed religions with. Thanks guys for making this such a shiny and nice discussion!
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Hello Yinyang:
I noticed your post. Were you responding to me because I did not get an Email telling of your reply. Tristan sent a post not to long ago that he was not getting Emails informing him of replys and I'm wondering if that isn't happening to me.
I don't think anyone is going start a thread about Santa Claus. But In all seriousness the spirit of giving, that Santa Claus represents, is a nice thing to believe in.
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I was just being silly.

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I'm a UU (Unitarian Universalist). As for my personal beliefs, they're mostly based on Native American religion, except a little more scientific, and there's also some paganism sprinkled in there. I'm celebrating Samhain this year, with some slight adaptions.
In addition, I'm probably going to join the WPM ( www.pantheism.net).
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With a background in theology from 12 years of Yeshiva education, and a high-powered science college, I've got some..."unique" religious beliefs.
I've called what I believe "Rational Judaism"; I believe in active thinking and criticism of one's religion. I believe in G-d, the G-d of Abraham, because I've convinced myself that this deity exists and is who He claims to be.
I keep His laws as they were communicated, and I think about their interactions with each other to make sure I am still maintaining coherence with my initial axioms.
You could say that I don't have a lot of faith; I think that blind faith is just ignorance, and while I respect people who are capable of that, it's just not something I can deal with.
Especially, I am against a few things that characterise current Orthodox Judaism:
1) Unwillingness to criticise traditions, customs, and interpretations that may run counter to the Torah because they have been done for so long.
2) Treatment of women. However they choose to reconcile it (and I've heard all of the arguments), I just can't accept this as fair.
3) Harsh judgment of others for their beliefs.
I wish that we could live in a world where everyone thought critically about their religions, didn't sweat it much when someone messed up about an element of relgion, and generally got along with each other by using their brains in conjunction with their hearts. Like my Rabbis have reminded me time and again, the longest distance in the human body runs between the head and the heart. I wish that it were not so hard to cross.
Spiritually, I believe in something that's a mix and match of (real) Kabbalistic mysticism and Sufi teachings. If you don't know what these are, the journey isn't for me to start you on. If you do, then you'll know what I'm talking about.
Scientifically, I support analysis of the Bible from the perspective of Science. The Bible does claim some things about Creation, and we need to take a look at that critically. In the end I'm able to convince myself that both accounts can be reconciled, and that theology answers the "why?" of life where science answers the "how?"
Likewise, I believe that it's possible for theological ideas to be expressed in scientific and mathematical terms. I've already made some efforts in this respect, but quantitative results are difficult.
As far as Religion's influence on the world, I'm sick and tired of people claiming that religion is the sole evil that has spurred on humanity towards he sorry state we are in. For me, I answer this with a few things:
1) We're not in a sorry state. We've made it a few million years, and we're going to make it more. We get along, and people *are* actually good at heart.
2) People who say this ignore that the Church in the Middle Ages was one of the primary forces against violence. If you don't believe me, look up the Synods regarding Pax Dei. You'll be surprised. Other religions have had similar things. To me, Religion has mitigated the violence that people visit upon each other, and when people have killed in the name of religion, it has been entirely as an excuse that they use to rationalize it with their compunctions against killing people. If there was no religion, we'd find other excuses to be terrible to one another. To me, what you're doing is looking at religion assuming it's supposed to bring morality, when morality and religion are separate topics.
So yeah, that's basically a summary of my beliefs. Eat n' Enjoy.
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