Religions/Beliefs of Browncoats
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Quote:Okay... so what if Jill's idea of heaven is to spend eternity with Jack, but Jack's idea of heaven is to never see Jill again? Sounds like Jill gets the shaft, as it were...
Originally posted by Mavourneen:
There is a book, called The Lovely Bones by Alice Sebold in which the author writes of a young woman going to her Heaven after her death.
Everyone's Heaven was different, but if your idea of what is Heaven intersects with someone else's idea of Heaven, you would meet.
So...if your idea of Heaven is living by the beach, and your Mom's idea of Heaven is living in Inner Mongolia, you would never meet again in Heaven.
How about this: everybody gets to spend eternity in their own idea of heaven, regardless of anybody else's beliefs. So Jill spends eternity with Jack and Jack spends eternity without Jill. No reason to think that's illogical in the afterlife.
Personally, I think death is the end... dreamless sleep forever. But I guess I could be surprised. Just hope it's not an unpleasant surprise.
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I'm pointin' right at it!
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I don't really label myself or my beliefs, but if forced I claim Pagan/Wiccan. I've been to every type of church, synagogue, temple... you name it and I've tried it. Nothing felt right to me until I was invited to sit with a coven.
Blessed be.
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I'm a follower of Cthulhu.
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Good choice, PP. 
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Originally posted by PaganPaul:
I'm a follower of Cthulhu.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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PaganPaul- we have that bumper sticker:) Hey have you seen Hellboy( the movie) it's got some great elder gods:)
See that individual heaven thing coincides nicely with my theory that god is loving and accepts all people who followed their beliefs.
I just love that we can all discuss this and every single one of us has been adult enough to be respectful and debate/discuss their own feelings without an sense of ridicule or problem...We all deserve a big HUG
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
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Ah, here we go - little miss Kitty, meet the pigeons...
I apologise in advance if this offends everyone, and if you think about it, it will, but its the only honest answer I can give at this point.
I actually think that religion is the single biggest clog tied to the foot of the donkey that is mankind. It is our, as a race, biggest weakness, the one thing that will separate us all for as long as it exists and continue to be the biggest source of pain, suffering and misery until the point where we can evolve beyond it.
Its a very intolerent view - i'd like to see all religion disappear without a trace as soon as possible. And I try daily to find a reason to reverse it, but sadly all that occurs simply re-enforces it.
That said, I understand, as well as I, indifferently educated as I am, can, why religion evolved, why so many still find it so necessary, and why it will probably exist as long as humans do. So i'm resigned to it.
A lot of religous people are human, civilised and enlightened people, same as some are psychopaths and air thieves, but those people would be exactly the same where they religious or not - they would simply have a different outlet for their philanthropy or mania, so the religion may as well not exist - I have no faith in religions redeeming abilities. A person is what a person is - their natural traits will out no matter what, and they will mould their religion in the image that suits and makes sense to them.
My faith (and I have no problem with faith, I believe that a certain amount of faith is necessary to everyone in every aspect of their lives, from faith that things will get better to faith that the abseiling rope you are hanging off is strong enough) is in the human being. On this planet we are something of a unique species, we have developed sophisicated systems of communication, we explore our world through art and science, and we've managed, for the most part, to trancend our animal instincts to become a 'civilisation'.
Which is why I chav-bash so much - despite this belief in human potentianl, i have daily proof of how large sections of society are blindly squandering it by willfully perverting the sucesses of other and stagnating in the banal and petty. And most of the time they absolutely sicken me in their total uselesness as a human being, and the fact that they are spoiling future generations. (and spawning at such an alarming rate!)
As for specifics - I believe in the scientists view of the world, the big bang, evolution, etc, I realise in some ways this is just as much a religion as other - large parts of it are little more than theory, and as all pervasive as it is, by some, it could be seen as the most insidious religion, taught as it is as absolute fact to our children from their earliest years.
But it works for me - i need logic, it need to make sense to me on a level that i don't even conciously know about - gods, angels, reincarnation, heaven, hell, valhalla, the devil... they're ok for others, but in my "soul" they have little more relevance to my life than bedtime stories. (though I do have a soft spot for fairys - when little if we lost something, we would stop and ask the fairy's to bring it back, and the fact that more often than not it seemed to work means that i occaisionally still do it. I never said i was rational or consistent)
So...
again 'pologies, and also, if someone has basically already said the same thing, I do apologies, but the thread was so long i admit i did the bad thing and started skimming, i intend to go back and read properly tomorrow.
This, is a great quote >
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Originally posted by bigdamntexan:
"while your treating yours like a temple,
I'm treating mine like an amusement park"
And how funny is it that at the same time as a deep and meaningful about religion, we're also discussing Nates family jewels?
Is there an official title for the Firefly groupie? Was BDWhore ever sanctioned?
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You didn't offend my, seryn! In fact, I agree with you about 99.99% of it (if I agree all the way, my identity will be in question - are we the same person? - and stuff).
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Did someone mention Nathan's family jewels?
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Just popped in at the end of my day for another quick reading and posting.
Some of you might have missunderstood my intentions about heaven before. If there's a heaven, I don't think God would deny my father going there. I think, my father just don't want to, and in my conception of God, he respects our decisions. "The other side" (hell) I don't imagine to be all fire and suflur. It's just, being away from God, and if someone chooses to be there, God will not force him into his presence. That's all.
But that's just idle thoughts. We'll see, what's up at this other side in a few years anyways.
There's another interesting thought about heaven:
If heaven is a perfect place, and I go there - well, then it won't be perfect anymore ...
Whole strange concept this heaven thing.
Going to bed now ...
Esther
Love my captain!
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