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POSTED BY: onepurpose
UPDATED: Friday, August 18, 2006 06:39
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ONEPURPOSE

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:32 AM

hi everyone i signed up for this website only because one of my friends showed this to me, and i hope to show you, based only on fact in the bible, and no bias, that it is not true.

here is what was posted on your site. i could not find the oringinal thread or whatever it was so i am sorry, otherwise i would have responded there.

From

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=23115&m=361285..361285

"The basic gist of my explanation is that there are two separate and contradictory creation stories in the book of Genesis.

"The first creation story documents how all the Gods and Goddesses gathered together and performed the Great Creation, the 7 day create-a-thon, which culminated in Them creating men and women together as equals, and giving them 'dominion over the birds of the air, the fish of the sea, the beasts of the earth,' etc. This is the famous 'Let US create man in OUR image, in OUR likeness,' quote. Its the only time the bible uses the plural in reference to god, so dont try to explain it as the royal 'we' since its not used anywhere else.

"Now skip ahead a bit, and we get to the second creation, in which a single god goes off by himself in secret and creates a man and a woman (nowhere does it say Adam and Eve were the first ones). These poor, less than perfect beings were never given dominion over anything, and were created with the sole purpose of worshiping this single vain god.

"This also explains why when Cain slays his brother Able, there is an entire city for him to run off to. This city is populated by the children of the first creation, who took pity on this poor lost soul and welcomed him into their community, where he proceeded to spread his own 'original sin' throughout the population via his descendants.

"Since the descendants of the second creation have no dominion over the earth, when we children of the original population demonstrate our God and Goddess given abilities we are labeled as witches and burned at the stake by the jealous children of the second.

"The Pagans are the original population, and the Christians (descendants of Adam and Eve) came later with lesser abilities. This is all according to their own bible.

"Theres a lot more to it, and many more examples of the True Gods being above the petty single god (the one who lied to Adam and Eve in the garden - the snake actually told the truth!), but thats the basic gist of the explanation.

"We are the true people. We are the way. So says their own bible."

And, then, here's the verse:

"Then God said, 'Let *us* make man in *our* image, in *our* likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'" - Genesis 1:26, NIV "

first, i want to make it clear that i am not trying to bash anyone's beliefs. i respect whatever higher order you do or do not believe in. but i wanted to set something straight.

the claim in the original post is that multiple gods and goddesses participated in a "first creation". first, in verses 1-25 of Genesis, God is refered to only as God, singular, except in the one verse, 26, in which it does indeed include the words us, and our. but, the verse begins with: "And he said: Let us make to our image and likeness..." which sets this verse apart because God is talking to himself pretty much. in no other verse does God actually speak, and in no other area in the creation story does it refer to any more than one god. Next, the claim in the orginal post said that there where tow creation stories, one found if you "skip ahead a bit". however, this is not accurate because there is no skipping ahead. the bible goes straight on with the same creation story, going from God resting on the seventh day to the explination of the Garden of Eden. and correct, no where does the bible say that Adam and Eve where the first humans, which is understandable. but so what! it is not like that is a hidden fact. anyone who reads the first two pages of the bi

YINYANG

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:38 AM

I have one question for you, onepurpose (and I'm not going to bash you, or carry any prejudices against you): Are you a Christian of any denomination (Latter Day Saints included)?

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KANEMAN

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:38 AM

Post this in Real world discussions. General discussion is set aside for me. Go to Home, scroll down to real world events. Enjoy hours of religious dialogue and Citizen very amusing limey.

PS. Who gives a fuck. Well, it's true

ONEPURPOSE

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:40 AM

yes i am christian otherwise i probably wouldnt have cared

YINYANG

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:44 AM

"Who gives a f***?"

Well, I can think of at least one obvious profession (which in the 'verse is a Companion, and in our world is prostitutes). So, going off of the definition I found, the person who gives a f*** would be either a pimp or 'whore.'

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fuck

n.

1. An act of sexual intercourse.
2. A partner in sexual intercourse.

Edit: Thank you for answering my question, onepurpose. Enjoy your stay in the 'verse!

Oh, that's right, there was a point to my questioning. As a Christian, you choose to interpret the Bible the way you described it above. As a pagan (if it isn't obvious from the username), PaganPaul chooses to interpret it another way. Neither is necessarily wrong or right, merely different.
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KANEMAN

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
"Who gives a fuck?"

Well, I can think of at least one obvious profession (which in the 'verse is a Companion, and in our world is prostitutes). So, going off of the definition I found, the person who gives a fuck would be either a pimp or 'whore.'

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fuck

n.

1. An act of sexual intercourse.
2. A partner in sexual intercourse.

Edit: Thank you for answering my question, onepurpose. Enjoy your stay in the 'verse!

Oh, that's right, there was a point to my questioning. As a Christian, you choose to interpret the Bible the way you described it above. As a pagan (if it isn't obvious from the username), PaganPaul chooses to interpret it another way. Neither is necessarily wrong or right, merely different.
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yinyang, in the real world "who gives a fuck" means No one cares. look up fuck you.

YINYANG

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:55 AM

I would like to take this moment to point out that we are not in the real world - we're in the 'verse.

F*** me? No thank you.

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WHITEFALL

Friday, August 18, 2006 4:58 AM

As yinyang said, enjoy your stint here in the 'verse. And hey, I dunno if you're right or wrong, Paul's explanation.... I dunno what to say about it. I've always found the bible a little iffy, it doesnt surprise me that it can be bent more ways than one, (as it has been for centuries) and.... well, I'm interested to see PaganPaul's counterpoint.

And kudos to you for talking in a civil, respectful fashion. We're big on that here.

And ignore Kaneman. He's in one of his moods. We dont get a lot of trolls here, but sometimes Kaneman sorta flips out. Lets just say he does not represent us when he's like this.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

KANEMAN

Friday, August 18, 2006 5:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
I would like to take this moment to point out that we are not in the real world - we're in the 'verse.

Fuck me? No thank you.

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yinyang, you looked up the definition of "who gives a fuck". Are you kidding? Fuck you is a term of Endearment in my book. Well, it's true.

Whitefall, moods? What does that mean my friend. I call an ass an ass. Does that make me an ass? Maybe! Join the revolution.

YINYANG

Friday, August 18, 2006 5:25 AM

If I may be so bold as to point this out, but... Kaneman, you seem to place emphasis on things being true. Is that just the way things are going tonight, or is it important to you?

Again, just curious.

Oh, it's a term of endearment? Well, yes, since the phrase (as defined by http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fuck%20you) means 'go to hell,' my only response is, "I fully intend to, if such a place exists separate from some terrible places on Earth."

And, just a note: I looked up the word f*** all on its own, because the phrase 'who gives a f***' isn't listed in the dictionary website I use and like.

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