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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:23 PM

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Originally posted by nvghostrider:

Alright, brain is tired. Talkin' out my ass so I'll shut up now.



That's one mighty eloquent ass you have there, NVG.




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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:33 PM

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Originally posted by Whitefall:
I'm athiest. I respect and kinda envy how people get that comfort out of religion, but i just cant wrap my brain around it.



Bwah, I've always wondered if there was anyone just like me!

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:35 PM

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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Science and math are as abstract as God and Allah. Yet we put so much stock in 2+2 and E=Mc2.



Hey NV! Good to talk to you too!

But I can't agree with you there. (read with Fargo accent ) 2+2 is a tool, part of a language that's been developed because it's useful. So it may be an abstraction, but it stands for something very real. Just like the word "dog".

E=mc2 may seem abstract, but it's just the same as "dog". It's a different language to describe something that can be directly observed. I'm not talking an observation that was made some millenia ago and must be believed just because someone said so. (cough Bible cough) Science is repeatable. A huge difference between science and religion is that scientific ideas are not accepted until they've been described, in detail, and shown that they can be repeated by anyone who wants to take the time to set up the experiment and do it again. Anyone, anywhere, anytime.

I must wax on because I'm having new thoughts (ouch!) Science is based on observations of nature, which can be controlled and repeated. Religion is, maybe??, based on the experiences of people, the emotional and spiritual insides of human beings, and no way is that repeatable. And no way should it be!

Whew, that was a lot. Is it 5:00 EST yet?

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:37 PM

wow we're all such a smart bunch. Excellent discussion:) Now if I could just get my students to discuss without thrwoing things:)

oh and EngineAngel...do you make latkes and kugel?? mmmm I love noodle kugel( not sure if I am spelling that correctly)especially the edges when they go all crunchy. ( I am such a food slut)

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:37 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
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Originally posted by fredgiblet:
Basically while I do not believe in a god I admit the possibility that there is one, but I don't care anyway.



Well said Fred. Wasn't that well said?

I'm an atheist, I don't agonize over it or reason it out on a daily basis or anything. It just seems obvious to me, and I enjoy what I experience of the `verse. What's beyond me, what I can't see or understand, I just don't worry about. That's worked just fine.

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I feel much the same although I have never considered myself an a true atheist. I am a firm believer in you reap what you so.

I like to help people, always have I just have trouble accepting help myself. Although I have never been afraid to ask a question if I do not know something, I strongly believe that ignorance is no excuse for failure, especially if there is someone with more knowledge of a subject than yourself.

I suppose this is a reason why I have no trouble with what other people believe, so long as they do not try and force it upon me. I am quite happy to engage them in a discussion, but as other people have said tend to find that you loose friends this way. But as a wise person I know has said to me, a true friend isn't going to leave you stranded just because they can't convince you to believe what they believe.





Why have they taken the sky from ME

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:38 PM

RWED, just like IRL, can break a person down. A good test for ones mettle.

And thanks for the ass comment DTH, seem to be gettin' that alot lately.

Okay, now I'm done.


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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:43 PM

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I actually ended up taking a 2 month break from fff.net because of RWED. I spent a lot of time there and couldn't stand to hang around the people in there any longer.


It's understandable. I mostly lurk in RWED anyway - people take some things too personally. Of course, there are the others that purposely insult one another...

Oh! I need to stay on-topic today!

Personally, if there is an actual afterlife, and one of the gods that people worship is standing there questioning me, I'm just gonna tell whoever/whatever it is the truth: I chose non-belief because your followers were a)unconvincing, b)strange, or c)scary; and, the beliefs themselves were uncomfortable. So there.

That's exactly what I would do, tongue and everything. So sue me.

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by yinyang:
It's understandable. I mostly lurk in RWED anyway - people take some things too personally. Of course, there are the others that purposely insult one another...



Yeah, I tried to stay out of the personal insult thing (though I'm perfectly willing to fight back on a personal insult).

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I chose non-belief because your followers were a)unconvincing, b)strange, or c)scary; and, the beliefs themselves were uncomfortable. So there.


ROFLMAO, strange and scary definitely cover a lot of the attemps that have been made to convince me.

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:51 PM

I believe in one thing, myself.. To me that is the only belief you need to get you by in life..... as far as a set religion i have none... I do believe there is something out there, something greater than us... what that is i dont know..

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:52 PM

Praise Allah, I love a woman who can argue a good point!

Just like 2+2 and the theory of relativity, religion and dogma are also controllable, repeatable, and very useful tools. They are based on neccessity and usefulness of men.

Can't syop smiling.

That is my point. We can argue for eternity and end up running the same circle. How is science concrete if there is no one to observr it, Science has hinted that the earth will pretty much be destroyed again, and life may or may not reappear. With no one to observe or calculate, math and science are as useless as bone awls and stone axes.

But what you said about just being in the 'verse while you can holds the ultimate truth. We are here now, enjoy it. There is no time like the present? Actually, there is no time but the present.
Thanks for the sudden burst of energy M4P. Though tired, I feel very good now.


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