The Actual Chance of a BDS

POSTED BY: ubergeek
UPDATED: Friday, August 25, 2006 04:12
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UBERGEEK

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:47 AM

Hi all, im new to these forums (although not a new browncoat) and I wanted to get the popular *real* option of the chance of a BDS. Not being optimistic or pessimistic, just, real.

My personal Opinion is: If we don't get even an announcement form Universal by January (by then they would have more than enough time to think on the idea and gather the DVD sale data and decide on whether or not to green light a sequel.) Then *I* am giving up on trying to get some from of video with our BDH (now by all means I wish that Joss would continue his story, which it seems he is doing with more comics which is great and Im all for that)

But frankly, even if we wrote Universal 100,000 hand written letters saying we want more Serenity, With out the hard cold numbers and money backing up Serenity I would be willing to stake *a lot* of money that they *wold never* make a BDS (wether or not it was a Direct to DVD or not). And because Universal and Joss have been VERRY MUM on the DVD sales #'s it does not look good.

Additionally I have come to the conclusion that we will never get a series 2 of Firefly. It has been proven 2 times now that the viewer base just isn't there.

Sorry if I have made any body mad. It's Just that i've been really depressed that for so long there has been *no* word what so ever about a sequel.

Just my rant

bye now

KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:52 AM

UBer, I agree 100%..I think the numbers are getting better every day. I would love to know the updated Serenity sales myself...Does anyone have them?

CAPTURE

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:01 AM

Hi ubergeek,

I feel your frustration, not hearing any thing tends to get one's hope down, however, even if we never see any Firefly again, at least we are all trying to bring something back that we passionetly love, and more then that we are bringing our community of Firefly fans together. Some where out there we are being heard, and even though we may not be heard by the "right people" who can give us what we want, we are being heard. Don't forget it took quit some time between the series ending and the BDM to come out, so one year with out news of a BDS is really not a big damn deal.

Don't lose the faith ubergeek, we have each other, we have Joss, the potential is there!!!

And if that's not enough for you check out the fan made parody of Firefly "Mosiquito". It is utterly hilirious, and should hopefully put a smile on your face! And it also shows how hard we're all still working!

Welcome to FFF.net and welcome to our family,were glad you came! Hope you like it here
as much as we do!

XOXOXOXO

Capture

P.S. you can see "Mosquito" on youtube, I'll even find the link for you!

ain't had nothing
twixt my nethers...weren't run on batteries.
Yup...still single...

CAPTURE

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:05 AM

Hi again ubergeek,

Here is that "Mosquito" link I promised!

Hope you enjoy it!

Capture

ain't had nothing
twixt my nethers...weren't run on batteries.
Yup...still single...

ZZETTA13

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:14 AM

UBERGEER,first of all welcome if you're new.

Second, you may be very right but the day I give up on getting any more Joss/verse will be the day I stop coming to FFF.net

Just an update around my home. We have become interested in a couple other tv series that are still in production. These shows are good. The acting is good and the situations are interesting. But at the same time they are no Firefly. This show was so good. The writting,action, special f/x and above all the acting can't be beat. The actors hitting their marks was so believable it blows my mind.There needs to be more.

Z,out

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:21 AM

you can't give up hope, there WILL be more.

End of line.

LAUGHINGMUSE

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:27 AM

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Originally posted by ubergeek:
And because Universal and Joss have been VERRY MUM on the DVD sales #'s it does not look good.

I wonder if part of it doesn't stem from so many people who expect a second and third movie? They don't just want one. They expect it. Matrix got a trilogy. Star Wars got two trilogies. Many other movies got trilogies (whether or not they deserved them is material for several other threads.) So of course Serenity will get a trilogy. Right? Now give us the movie, dammit or we'll hold our breath!!!

Joss reportedly put a lot of personal and professional energy into Firefly: first into getting Fox to buy the series, then in shopping the series about town, then in getting Serenity greenlighted. From hints dropped throughout the official Serenity companion, and various interviews he's given the past year, I get the impression that he's a bit tired of fighting for Every. Last. Thing. Joss - any writer, actually - wants to be able to tell his stories the way he sees / hears them *without* having to prove his right to exist at every third step. Yet apparently he had to fight Fox to get the series on and keep it (relatively) free of alterations; and he had to reconfigure his story to fit into a two-hour epic-movie format as opposed to the longer, more richly detailed tales he seems to prefer to tell. When Joss got Universal to greenlight a Serenity feature film, he won. Sort of. Yes, he got to work with a cast he apparently enjoys, telling a story all of them apparently enjoy. But he still didn't get to tell his story. On top of that, he's been hearing demands for more-more-MORE for...what...at least a year now. When people thank you for telling your stories, and enthuse about them (and you), it feeds the soul. When people demand that you finish telling *your* stories to *their* satisfaction, it sours the thing a bit. Suddenly, you're not quite sharing the love any more. The one side demands - the other side provides. It becomes less of a shared labor of love and more of an obligation.

For my own part, the instant someone begins to expect something I'd otherwise give them freely - like my assistance with their web stuff, help cleaning up their house or running errands, or what have you - I suddenly begin to feel put upon. And cross. And rather vexed. (Okay, I turn into a petulant nelly.)

I don't know if that's how Joss feels about the situation; and I'm sure that if he got some kind of offer to produce a Firefly-universe audio-media somethingorothereth, he'd go for it. But possibly, Joss' and Universals' keeping mum on the DVD sales numbers is an attempt to stave off the waves of near-entitlement coming from a small portion of Firefly fandom.

Or maybe not. What do I know? I'm surmising like sixty. No fact above, just speculation and projection. Armchair quarterbacking. Pablum pop psychology. (Pablum Pop Psych. That looks like the name of a garage band...)

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That doom and gloom spewed forth, I think that it's possible that the studios could start taking the longer view and start using a "first season" as an initial marketing vehicle for a direct-to-DVD series. Or miniseries. I have no idea what changes in the production process might occur, if filming didn't have to adhere to the now-traditional yearly windows of August-to-April. I also don't know the profitability of broadcast versus DVD, so I have no idea how attractive such an additional venue might be to the studios. Still...I don't know that hopes for a movie, a miniseries, or a series are really set - one way or the other.

(Personally, I'm holding out hope for a miniseries or series. Movies are too short to tell everything properly; and comic books don't let all of them work together. Plus, if they're all working...vive la paycheque.)

A second series is possible. An audio series is possible. Comic books are, apparently, happening. This story may not continue immediately, it may only continue in comic book form, it may suddenly be taken into

KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:33 AM

I hope we don't come off as sounding like we are "demanding" anything of Joss. I would like to think he understands that we love his 'verse, are very thankful, and hope to have more in any form....

UBERGEEK

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:48 AM

To me it seems form interviews That Joss loves this verse. And it seemed that he would be close with Universal and would be constently checking to get updates on if it's going to happen. I would think (again form Joss's comments that I've read/seen) that if there was even a shimmer of hope he would mention it to his fans.

Oh, and I don't feel im entitled to Joss's story. If Joss comes out and says "You know what, The story is over. I feel happy with where it is an im not going to presue it any more" I would stop hoping for firefly. I would of course be bumbed that Firefly would be no more. But I would not get Irate and start saying "Joss took *my* story away form me" no I would just lett it pass. Cuase its Joss's story, and he is just sharing it.

This whole thing is a rant about how little info has been given to us. (not an angry rant mind you, just a kind "so, uh, whats going on?") I personly find It great that Joss is doing new comics. I love the fact that he still wants to coninue *his* story.

uh i think i covered it. but i'm going to re-read your poted again to see if there was anything i missed (nice posted btw LaughingMuse)

LAUGHINGMUSE

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:49 AM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
I hope we don't come off as sounding like we are "demanding" anything of Joss. I would like to think he understands that we love his 'verse, are very thankful, and hope to have more in any form....

From my own view, a very small percentage come off as demanding. I've seen people get publicly angry and cranky about Joss' decisions to do this or that - to the point that they type things like "I can't ever watch anything by Joss Whedon ever again because he killed/marooned/broke up thus-and-such character." If I had created something that I loved, and thought that others would love it too, I would be either saddened or outright pissed off to hear of comments like the above. (Keep in mind, I have no idea how Joss reacted /reacts when he hears about such things. I can only really know my own thoughts; and those only on alternate Wednesdays.)

On the other hand, I also think that he not only knows that there's a lot of love out here, but that he occasionally piles it up and rolls in it. I think that, as with nearly any other human, it sustains him to know that several someones get a real buzz out of a story he told.

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