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World War Three

POSTED BY: dreamtrove
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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:04 AM

AURaptor,
Please don't use "Islamo-fascists" like it's a real
term. "Islamo-fascists" is part of the propaganda
campaign of the current US admin.

Islam has nothing to do with Fascism.
"Islamo-radical" I can buy. Think about it. Would
YOU rather be called a Christian-Fascist, or a
Christian-radical? Which is more accurate?

Personally, I think people who kill in the name of
religion should be lined up and shot.
(Please try and see the humor)

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Monday, August 14, 2006 4:49 PM

Dreamtrove- Wow. When did you go off the deep end?

I'm not blind to the conflict. I think more than anyone I'm fully aware of how much people around the world hate us, especially the Middle East. But the conflict is not just about religion. Might as well say that the conflict between the USA and the USSR was about the godlessness or that WWII was about fascism. But if you, Bush, and other fanatics keep pushing that button it WILL become a war about religion.

There is ONLY ONE REASON why we're fighting, and it's all about oil and has always been about oil. Take oil out of the equation and we'd be more than happy to leave the Middle East with it's religion and it's peasant economy, no matter how stupid and benighted we see it. Without oil the whole Middle East just becomes a big hot dusty sandbox, something to go around on the way to more interesting places, as vital to us as... oh, say... Rwanda.

Put oil IN the equation and all of the sudden there's a whole history of puppet governments and military bases and foreign interference. The Shah, the Saudi Royal family, the Taliban, Saddam, bases all over, American troops everyhwere...

SAY, YOU DON'T SUPPOSE THAT'S WHAT MIDDLE EASTERNERS MIGHT BE REACTING TO, DO YOU??? A sense of ongoing national, cultural and economic violation? NAH, couldn't be...

Unfortunately, religion is a convenient TOOL to rouse people. It's happening here... and DT you're being worked as well as anyone... so why shouldn't it happen there?


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Monday, August 14, 2006 5:16 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
SAY, YOU DON'T SUPPOSE THAT'S WHAT MIDDLE EASTERNERS MIGHT BE REACTING TO, DO YOU??? A sense of ongoing national, cultural and economic violation? NAH, couldn't be...

No it's because they're evil Islamo-Fascists that hate freedom and puppies, you moron .



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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:04 PM

When someone like DT gets sucked into a global war scenario, that's a bad sign.

People in the United States (Aurap, Hero, Kaneman, et al... are you listening?) are constantly bombarded with the message that "they started it". 9-11 is burned into their brains as if it were the beginning of history.

AU CONTRAIRE. We and the Brits have been mucking up the Middle East since 1920. We've set up dictators, pitted group against group, coddled religious fanaticism when it suited our purposes, built bases everywhere, invaded on a whim, wrapped the oil money in our banking tentacles and suppressed all secular national movements that even breathed a hint of socialism.

IT'S ALL ABOUT OIL. And when the people of those nations twitch with any sort of nascent resistance we scream and gibber and stomp on them in complete hysteria. Because we have to fight them "there" (no matter that we were "there" in the first place) so that we won't have to fight them "here".



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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:09 PM

Puppies! Even 'Slamo-fascists wouldn't stoop so low! Are you sure? Could you supply a link, please?

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Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:18 PM

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Or is it that us right wingers are the only ones who care about Iraq, Iraqi women, Iraqi children, and also about Iraqi dogs?
That old camel and goat molester, pedofile, wife beater, and animal abuser of Mohammed said it all. According to him, Allah said that dogs and pigs were dirty. Because those terrorists are clean! Fuck Allah, the dog hater. Piss a Muslim, adopt a dog. Make a dog happy, kill a terrorist, pay in kind since they are killing dogs in the name of Allah.

http://www.killcastro.com/blog/2005/08/another-reason-to-hate-them.htm
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Mohammed the dog hater!!!



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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:31 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
So I say again

1/2 the world. 3 continents. 25 nations, 45 if you include those that attack, but have not been attacked. 20 million combatants who has seen combat. 40 million somehow connected to combat. 10 million dead and counting.




Wow, its like the 19('50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and thats just the last few decades) up to and including the usual folk holding up 'the end is near' signs.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. On the other hand, if this is WW3, then you really should be voting Republican since the "Democrats Can't Defend America" (which is also Ned Lamont's theme song...sung to the tune of 'Oops I did it again').

H

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:39 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
AU CONTRAIRE. We and the Brits have been mucking up the Middle East since 1920. We've set up dictators, pitted group against group, coddled religious fanaticism when it suited our purposes, built bases everywhere, invaded on a whim, wrapped the oil money in our banking tentacles and suppressed all secular national movements that even breathed a hint of socialism.


So you are arguing that we created the dangerous fanatics determined to kill us all. Does this mean that we don't have a right to defend ourselves?

It seems your so caught up in the "we created" part you forget the "determined to kill us all" part. Personally I think that if they kill us, it doesn't matter if we caused it or not.

Lets survive first and then we'll feel bad later. I mean you are the guy urging the settlers not to circle the wagons and fight off the indians trying to massacre them (he's usually the first one killed, by the way). We'll figure out the history later...if anyone is left to write it down.

H

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by STDOUBT:
AURaptor,
Please don't use "Islamo-fascists" like it's a real
term. "Islamo-fascists" is part of the propaganda
campaign of the current US admin.

Islam has nothing to do with Fascism.
"Islamo-radical" I can buy. Think about it. Would
YOU rather be called a Christian-Fascist, or a
Christian-radical? Which is more accurate?

Personally, I think people who kill in the name of
religion should be lined up and shot.
(Please try and see the humor)



fas*cism - A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Sorry, but I think the term 'Islamo-fascism' appllies quite nicely. Look at what the Taliban did to Afghanistan. That is the sort of Gov't that OBL and like minded religious zealots have in store for not just the mid-east, but eventually Europe , the U.S. and finally the whole planet.

It's not that these religious types are JUST 'radicals', far from it. They are intent in establishing Shiria Law as the bed rock by which all laws are made and carried out. Using the term 'radicals' doesn't establish the depth at which these false Muslims are willing to distort the faith.


p.s. - I would prefer to be called neither christian radical or christian fascist, for neither is remotely accurate.




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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:39 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
So I say again

1/2 the world. 3 continents. 25 nations, 45 if you include those that attack, but have not been attacked. 20 million combatants who has seen combat. 40 million somehow connected to combat. 10 million dead and counting.




Wow, its like the 19('50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and thats just the last few decades) up to and including the usual folk holding up 'the end is near' signs.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. On the other hand, if this is WW3, then you really should be voting Republican since the "Democrats Can't Defend America" (which is also Ned Lamont's theme song...sung to the tune of 'Oops I did it again').

H



the difference is that 50 years ago the world wasnt a deceptive, engineered war away from a global government.

this seems to be the biggest obstacle of reason for the America Christians in lock step with Bush; they dont, or arent studying to understand prophecy. how do you know what is to take place at the end of the age without considering what events proceed the coming of antiChrist?

to my best understanding, the tribulation begins after a WW3 conflict, which i believe Daniel says envolves Iran and Isreal, which escalates to encompass the prominant western nations and their "opponents."

this war must destabilizes the global political environment sufficiently enough to introduce (1)a treaty insuring Israels safety, (2)brokered by the Anti-Christ, whos lying signs and wonders give him the capitol to usher in a (3)one world government (4)one world religion, (5)and one world currency, or the (6)mark of the beast, where no man can buy or sell without recieiving the mark.

if you look into the NWO conspiracy, you find these same forces and motives at work PRESENTLY, in America! but because of the "War on Terror" propoganda, Americans are welcoming it

well during this upcoming "gog/magog" war, the apostasy of the church happens, the great falling away of believers, due to unexpected circumstances, and an incredible diception which takes place that decieves "even the elect, if it were possible"..at which point the mechanisms for control are already in place

so think about this: we know that right now there is an elitist agenda to create a "NWO". this agenda is unquestionably occultic in nature, which is obvious upon personal investigation.

understand that 9/11 was an orchestration, by the establishment, to initiate the circumstances required to undermine the final liberties and sovereignty of western nations. there motive is the government of antichrist..whether they know it personally or not

the bible says that Christians will be decieved during this same period, right?....well most Christians believe Bush and his "war on terror" propoganda. coincidence?

if America is mystery Babylon, the prostitute that sits on many waters, of which the people of the world hate, but that makes all the nations drink of the wrath of her fornications; it is the nation which rules with antichrist, over the peoples of the world...

think about it! that is America! and Bush christians are the "elect", who will be decieved into supporting the rise of the system of the Beast. i fear it is these same Christians who believe the rapture occurs before the tribulation, leaving them unprepared for the diception which is to occur that will leave them on earth during this time of persecution

let me give you the most obvious insight into the reality of politics in America: Both our candidates for president in '04 were members of the same organisations(skull and bones), an occult group dedicated to overthrowing the US government; its an admitted goal. Bush and Kerry, when both confronted about this revelation, said that "theres not much we can say, because its a secret". does Christianity permit secrecy? does that not raise red flags to you Christians our there?

if you want to save America, you should realize that neither the democrats

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