How did you feel when you watched the last episode of Firefly.
POSTED BY: Darkfly
UPDATED: Thursday, August 10, 2006 04:27
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Well so far, I've only seen OiS thrice (and I call myself a fan...):
1st time: After a whirlwind of 3 days of Firefly when the DVD came from Amazon w/ Serenity in December, I felt amazed and disheartened at the same time. No doubt, I had less than gentile things to say about several FOX execs.
2nd time: I was happy to have finished the show with my sister and dad, and excited to show her Serenity (already watched it with dad). My dad's now a fan and my sister is a Browncoat...you should see her in her Jayne hat...cunning!
3rd time: I caught the recent marathon on Sci-Fi, and it was glorious. I thought, "So this is what Firefly was like on TV." It was a great sensation, and I hope to have it in the future.
"All I got is a red guitar, three chords, and the truth...the rest is up to you"
--Bono
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Darkfly, et ma famille:
When I watched "Serenity, Part I & II" on F*x I was elated, I was... Giddy! I thought, "The sky's the limit! Look, they've just aired a 2-hour special of the greatest TV show of all time. Fox must love it as much as I do!"
Of course, I had no idea that F*x had already killed the show...
When the betrayal became obvious 2 months or so later, I started pouring my feelings into posts on the alt.tv.firefly newsgroup. Sometime thereafter, a British Browncoat with the handle 'hel' (as in Heloise?) began recording and posting the eps off of SciFi UK. As a consequence, I was able to rewatch them in the correct order and with the 'lost episodes' intact. When the 'complete' series DVDs became available -- 8 months later -- I immediately bought a set (like, at 12 midnite) and trashed the 'pirate' copies.
But seeing OiS from this perspective, as the last ever Firefly, filled me with dark emotions I cannot name and do not wish to examine too closely. Put it this way, though: Me, that traitorous bitch Gail Berman and a loaded pistol...
Ungallantly,
zoid
P.S.
I'll not apologize for calling Berman a 'bitch' without masking a letter. Sometimes you just gotta call a bitch a bitch, and let the mommies cover the kiddies ears and 'tsk-tsk' at you. Berman screwed us all over, just to rub Whedon's nose in her power over him, singlehandedly killing Mutant Enemy -- her former comrades -- in the process.
There are times when I wish I could allow myself to hate other people, or wish a horrible wasting disease on them; but, I just can't and the very thought causes my heart, mind and soul to recoil in disgust. If I could hate someone, Gail Berman would be very near the top of my list for stabbing us all in the back, and for destroying something so beautiful as Firefly in the name of her twisted vanity...
Ummm... Not to put too fine a point on it...
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'
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That I have to watch SERENITY again! My obesessive cycle started with the BDM ( it had something to do with Mal asking about the primary buffer panel of all things) and on to the series and when it was over..... it was time to start all over again.
The cycle continues.
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I'm confused, zoid, what's this about Gail Berman? I don't know all of the story concerning Firefly's downfall, maybe you could enlighten me?
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"See, this is a sign of your tragic space dementia. All paranoid and crotchety, it breaks the heart."
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Gail Berman, formerly a colleague of Joss' at Mutant Enemy Productions, had by that time taken over the job of Programming Head at FOX network. All I can imagine is that there had to have been some bad blood between them for her to screw him over so badly. There have been at least two threads here asking who the best (or worst, I guess) villian in the 'verse was. Both times my response was Gail Berman.
As for how I felt after I watched the last episode of Firefly. I'll get back to you when I see it, since it hasn't even been filmed yet.
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
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i'd bought firefly on dvd and watched every episode in a marathon succession, and after it had finished my first thought was:
"What the hell were FOX thinking the kn*bheads!"
then i was wondering if i had enough cash to buy serenity.
You died mishter reynolds.
Seemed like the thing to do.
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deepgirl187:
Gail Berman was one of the founding members of Mutant Enemy, executive producer and close confidant/working partner with Whedon.
Then in 2001, she accepted the position of F*x's Entertainment President.
From here, I'm just speculating...
But, I think I can make a compelling case against her, showing that she intentionally scuttled Firefly, Joss and the entirety of Mutant Enemy (her onetime creative family).
She was the Entertainment President of F*x at the time of Firefly's advent and demise (2001-2005). If she were loyal to her erstwhile compatriots, she would have done everything in her considerable and ultimate power as the EP to insure that Firefly was treated properly. Right? Instead, the pilot never airs, Joss and Tim working over a single weekend to rush out TTJ. Then Firefly gets the 'slot 'o death'. Then the episodes get shown out of order. Then the time slot gets the 'hide and go suck' routine because of playoff baseball, without any proper notification of the changes. Then Firefly gets unceremoniously yanked, without any consideration of the hardships it has had to endure.
If Berman had wanted to, if she'd had a single bone in her body that believed in Joss Whedon's creative genius and supported that genius for all it was worth, we'd still be watching Firefly on F*x today.
But she didn't do any of those things, did she? "Why didn't she?" we must all ask ourselves. I put it to you that she intentionally wanted Joss, her friends at Mutant Enemy and Firefly to fail, thereby making herself look like the only talented one, the only reason why Buffy and Angel were so successful. Without her, Mutant Enemy were a bunch of hacks, and, "See? Here's the proof: Firefly is a failure (on my network). Oh, and Tim Minear is a hack too; his "Wonderfalls" is a horrible failure as well (on my network)."
That's not the way it's supposed to work, when you're creatively connected with a team. The way it should've worked is that Berman should've chained herself to the Mutant Enemy mast, putting her job at F*x on the line for her comrades, if that's what it took. In her position, they'd have had to fire me, 'cuz I would have never allowed what happened to Firefly and Wonderfalls to transpire...
So why did she allow it? I think she not only allowed such treatment, she engineered it. All the machinations that killed Firefly were, in fact, of her own doing. Who else was more powerful than her in the television entertainment division? Who could have circumvented her power and screwed over her comrades against her will?
Do the math... (Hint: The answer is 'Nobody')
Logically,
zoid
P.S.
Berman is now at Paramount Pictures. Just thought I'd warn y'all...
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'
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Well in that case, I guess we should be glad that the BDM wasn't picked up by Paramount... 
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It's September 2002, just one year after a fairly significant event.
There is a TV show glorifying the criminal acts of a loosely-knit group of rebels, fugitives and a religious figure. Their primary target is a monolithic, imperialistic, federal government that runs black ops hidden from their citizens.
And this show is going to run on Fox. Right-wing Fox?
In the movie, the Alliance even hires contractors to police rim planets!
We're lucky we got what we did. You can't fight the zeitgeist.
Of course, George Bush is dumb again now. Michael Moore made some headway with Fahrenheit 9/11 and An Inconvenient Truth isn't being called traitorous. The SciFi channel could make a mint bringing it back. Maybe M4TV movies once a month.
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I think we're going to rise again.
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