Zoe?
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UPDATED: Tuesday, August 8, 2006 19:19
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Originally posted by xitwound117:
I don't believe for a second that she picked Wash because he would break sooner. She did seem to, when talking to wash on-board the shuttle, not expect to return for Mal. I'm not saying she wouldn't have had Wash not initiated it, but she didn't have a plan to at the time. I mean, wouldn't she have said "We're going to get him" rather than Niska will take "days" to torture him? She picked the person she most wanted safe.
Anyway, caring about the crew doesn't necessarily make someone a good leader at all. There's no question that she cares about the crew and the ship, but she just seems like a follower. She seems most at home carrying out a task rather than coming up with what to do and how to do it.
I really can't say I agree here, at least not to everything. Saying Zoe is just a follower really isn't fair to her character. Zoe leads when she has to, whereas Mal (and this is probably a leftover from Serenity Valley) wants to lead. He needs to be in control of something, because the Alliance has taken so much away.
I will agree that Zoe chose Wash because she wanted him safe the most. But I also believe that she knew he'd break first. The two ideas don't have to be mutually exclusive.
The sad thing about Zoe's character is that we just don't know enough about her. While other characters like Mal or River had lots of development, Zoe was in some ways neglected. So I think there will be some aspects of her character that we will just have to guess at.
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What? At Serenity Valley Mal had faith, religion, less distrust of people. He had a belief, a purpose. His coat represents that to him. To Zoe the coat is just a coat that represents the military faction she fought for. That's why Mal wears his and Zoe doesn't.
And plus, Mal lost all of his purpose, direction, faith, religion, etc after Serenity Valley and the war. Zoe is pretty much the same. The only change is the now departed husband really.
I stand by my view that Zoe is the one that has changed. Maybe not from the moment when Mal blows up the Alliance Fighter in the very first teaser - Zoe then still resembles present day Zoe more than that Mal resembles present day Mal. Do you see what I'm saying?
But from the moment in one of the deleted scenes, the one were Mal says something like 'God? Whos colours he flying?' - that Mal is more similar to the present day Mal. At that point he has lost his (as you say) purpose, direction, faith etc. and he hasn't moved on a great deal in the time between that and the events we see in the series and movie. Whereas Zoe has found herself a fine husband.
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I see what you mean. And it brings up an interesting point. Does Wash represent everything Zoe lost in the war? Did he help her reconnect with that side of herself? And if so, what will she be like now that he's gone?
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
I see what you mean. And it brings up an interesting point. Does Wash represent everything Zoe lost in the war? Did he help her reconnect with that side of herself? And if so, what will she be like now that he's gone?
I don't know if we know enough about what Zoe lost in the war to say this? If we assume she lost her family, then Wash would certainly represent that aspect. Also, perhaps he is something to her that is not a mission - not something she is ordered to do (though she may believe in the order) but something that she has that is her own, that nobody gave to her and in one sense, can never take away. Of course, in another sense some Reavers and a big-ass stick could take it from her.
As to what she will become...who knows? That's a job for Joss! I wouldn't be suprised if in the opening scenes to the next (God willing) 'Verse film/episode we saw Zoe back in her browncoat. Actually, how shiney would a Zoe centered film be?! Hard to sell commercially perhaps though.
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