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What happened to Early's ship?

POSTED BY: Callahan
UPDATED: Saturday, September 30, 2006 00:32
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Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by MRSU:
***Besides, if she wanted just to kill Early, why follow such a complex plan and risk something going wrong? She could have simply shot him. ****

Hmm, I always thought that that was her Plan A, and that's why she grabbed the gun in the beginning of the episode. But after Mal said to her "no touching guns" she went with the other plan.



IIRC, when we saw that scene from Rivers POV, the gun appeared as a stick. If River was thinking of gun simply as something to play with; that suggests she was not intending to kill anyone with it.

Even if River was determined not to use a gun later on, she could still have killed Early easily enough. A pen is a lethal weapon, if River wants it to be.


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Originally posted by MRSU:
The problem with letting Early go on his ship is that he would come back again and would be more ruthless this time. River cared too much about the crew to let that happen. She shot people to save Kaylee, even though she hated it. She was ready to do the same with Early, to save people she loved.

But otherwise - Early's ship is the mystery to me. I prefer to think that the ship was reprogrammed by River to follow them, and it weered off to their cargo bay and they just stripped it of the valuables off-screen and then discarded it.

Adding: and also I'd guess River (and the others) would at least be curious to grab their search warrants and information Early gathered on them.



I agree that it was dangerous to let Early go, but it was just as dangerous to let Saffron go at the end of OMR and Trash. In series television, the bad guy must always be allowed to fight another day!

If we have to have an in-universe explanation, perhaps River felt that Early was scared enough to stay away from her for the future. She may also find it painful to see others hurt – she did close her eyes and look away when she was firing in War Stories.

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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 7:56 AM

I think that Early called out to his ship to bring it back. Of course, big Jubal Early fan here, so I'm probably more than a little biased. I really, really just hope he made it out of there. I can't imagine Joss would kill off such an awesome character after only one showing. His dialogue was so amazing! I dunno, maybe an off course Zaphod picked him up in the HyperImprobablity drive or something.

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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 8:09 AM

Joss loves repeat villians. I think that, for whatever reason, Early's ship was heading after him. Maybe he had a way to signal it in his suit (that would be smart, considering he didn't use any teathers) or maybe River did send it after him.
Joss should do more comic books and/or novels (please write novels Joss! I know you don't do that but it would be so shiny!) explaining what happened to Early.

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Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:08 AM

I've been told in no uncertain terms that the reflection on Early's mask is a reflection of the crew and Joss (crew up on catwalk, Joss sitting below), not a rescuing spaceship. Perhaps the person who corrected my rescuing spaceship hypothesis was just cranky that day.

I've always figured River was able to send the ship away - whether away to Early or away to the nearest planet, I don't know. Joss does say that he planned on bringing Early back, can't remember where, so it could've been either a rescue or the arrival of Early's own ship that saves him. I just wish we had gotten that 2nd Early episode.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 2:12 PM

You know, throughout the whole episode most of what Early says is ambiguous and implies a variety of a meanings. So, I always just figured his last line was a statement to himself, and to his ship. As if saying here I am, come get me. For me there was no way that could be the end of his story. First off he was too cool of a character, and second off Early was meticulous in the way he conducted his business. He planned things out extensively, so it would make sense that his suit would be connected to his ship somehow.
As for the ship turning around and going in the opposite direction and nobody on serenity questioning it...er...a reaver did it.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 9:18 PM

I thought the same thing! Like "wtf why dont they sell that thing, it looks awesome!" It seemed more like Joss couldnt think of any other way to deal with the ship, and hoped that nobody would notice it randomly turning and flying away.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 11:35 PM

I have to agree with this idea......Early must have had some sort of remote control tucked away somewhere on his person........Joss was probably saving this for a later episode, becuase Early was a very interesting, colorful character.

Interesting, actually, as it just occurs to me, that both the operative and Early were both black, both exeptionally well spoken, and both after River, as well as both being quite amoral about their methods. Perhaps the Operative was a retooling of Early's character that Joss never had a chance to revisit.




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Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:32 AM

WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS SHIP?
He probably called it to him.

THEN WHY DID HE SEEM DISTRAUGHT AT BEING LEFT FLOATING IN SPACE?
Re-read the question. If ANyone was left stranded in space, they would have reacted far more emotionally I would think.

WHY DID IT PULL AN ABOUT FACE AND ZIP OFF AT THE END OF OIS?
River probably programmed it to leave.

WHY WOULDN'T SHE KEEP IT FOR SCRAP/JUST KILL HIM?
River was running the show in OIS for the good guys, not Mal or Jayne. The idea of selling the ship probably didn't occur to her. She was also half-crazy still at the time. Also, look at it from River's perspective- is it better to salvage a ship, orrrr...(1) Program it to take off so any Alliance or associates of the Bount Hunter would be able to track the beacon to a false trail? (2) Send it far enough away that when Jubal calls it back, they'll have a good lead on his possible pursuit, or at least him radioing to any 'associates'their status? (She still hadn't killed anyone at this point that she hadn't needed to to save someone. The three losers in 'War Stories' were a beat away from coming on board or at least, preventing the rest of the guys from falling back to the ship.
And, as someone had mentioned, the ship could have been trapped, or she knew he could summon it and didn't want it in the cargo hold or wherever in Serenity when the thing suddenly came to life trying to get to Jubal.

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