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Get real. If someone was shooting rockets into your house trying to kill you...

POSTED BY: DukKati
UPDATED: Monday, August 14, 2006 05:43
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Monday, August 7, 2006 10:15 PM

You yourself said they're shooting rockets into my house. I don't see how I can defend myself, especially for that kind of surprise attack. It's not to say I wouldn't make some effort to save myself; it's just that the chances of me surviving multiple rocket attacks is slim to nil.

I'm just being realistic; sorry if that offends you.
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Monday, August 7, 2006 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by DukKati:
One more thing, Israel didn't start this action get your facts right.

Yes they're always playing the poor little innocent victim card, it's getting old when the death toll is hugely skewed in their favour.

And actually the definition of selfish is consistently putting yourself before others, and the definition of coward is consistently attacking those who have little or no chance of defending themselves against you.
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I've been through the system.
It don't work.

The education system? I have to agree.

Highfalutin $20 words, you working class hero you, that's simply priceless .



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Monday, August 7, 2006 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by DukKati:
]So what I'm reading here is ,most of you would just die.

You would die because you don't feel any thing is right and because nothing is right you think all will be OK in the end?





hell no, absolutely no principal invovled in dying because i got blown up, s'not like i'd be being given a great deal of choice in the matter

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Monday, August 7, 2006 11:11 PM

Hat is off to Israel. What would any country in the world do if a terrorist state (within a state) started lobbing missiles at it and the host country did zip(France or the spineless sect. of England does not count)? Fight back! and make damn sure a message is sent to "Lebanon" that is as easily understood as first grade math......Do not harbor terrorists or we will do what the USofmuthafrakinA does..."Hand out some good 'ole Yankee bitch slaps".........PERIOD.

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Monday, August 7, 2006 11:39 PM

I would thnk you can't blame Israel.

We in the USA had a similar problem with Spanish Florida. "Old Hickory" invaded and problem solved. It seems Israel has little choice but to follow that time tested model.

If a government can't control its territory, somebody else has to.

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Monday, August 7, 2006 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
Hat is off to Israel. What would any country in the world do if a terrorist state (within a state) started lobbing missiles at it and the host country did zip(France or the spineless sect. of England does not count)? Fight back! and make damn sure a message is sent to "Lebanon" that is as easily understood as first grade math......Do not harbor terrorists or we will do what the USofmuthafrakinA does..."Hand out some good 'ole Yankee bitch slaps".........PERIOD.

All very amusing coming from a citizen of a country that lost nearly every war in the last one hundred years when it wasn't backed by Britain...



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Monday, August 7, 2006 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Hat is off to Israel. What would any country in the world do if a terrorist state (within a state) started lobbing missiles at it and the host country did zip(France or the spineless sect. of England does not count)? Fight back! and make damn sure a message is sent to "Lebanon" that is as easily understood as first grade math......Do not harbor terrorists or we will do what the USofmuthafrakinA does..."Hand out some good 'ole Yankee bitch slaps".........PERIOD.

All very amusing coming from a citizen of a country that lost nearly every war in the last one hundred years when it wasn't backed by Britain...



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Spoke like a true liberal limey.....First we saved or whooped your english as* how many times? Every........Period

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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 12:02 AM

Oh, last I checked... The only reason we went into Vet. was because you got your as* kicked(Or was thatthefrench)..Grenada.HaHaMuthafrakinHaHa, South America HaHamuthafrakinha, India, AMERICA..must I go in? Your biggest national heros? King Arthur, Peter pan, Robin hood! Think about it over tea frog. HINT::::::::THEY ARE NOT REAL

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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 1:31 AM

No police force can handle this kind of thing. Police forces are by their nature limited to jurisdiction, and the Israeli police jurisdiction ends at the northern Israeli border. The Lebanese police won’t do anything; if they were then they would have by now.

This is a textbook example of a military circumstance. Hezbollah soldiers invaded northern Israel, attacked the Israeli military, killing 8 and take 2 prisoners. Hezbollah is an elected party of the Lebanese government and currently in control of Southern Lebanon (i.e. Lebanon declared war on Israel.) Israel responds. They destroy roads, bridges and airports. Military strategy 101: isolate the enemy, cut off reinforcements and supply lines. Israel bombs artillery batteries. Military strategy 102: bombard the enemies’ defenses. Israel sends paramilitary ground troops in to Southern Lebanon. Military strategy 103: put boots on the ground and secure key strategy points of entry. Israel proceeds with massive ground invasion. Military strategy 104: send in the troops and secure the area.

You can disagree with Israel decision to respond militarily, but I’m all but certain that if a country controlled by a 20-50,000 strong heavily armed terrorist organization on the border of the US (or Britain) were to invade as Hezbollah did, respectively, that most of you would be calling for the exact same action that Israel has applied to Lebanon. And of course that is why 80% of Israelis support their countries actions. And why Israel is right to respond.

You can complain about the disproportionate destruction that Israeli has in response to Hezbollah, but that’s kind of laughable too. Because first of all, Hezbollah is actively using Lebanese civilians for PR; they have one of the greatest propaganda machines since the Nazi regime. They are launching artillery barrages from within heavily civilian populated areas intentionally to force Israel to fire on civilian inhabited areas. Ergo the majority of civilian deaths in Lebanon would have been avoidable if Hezbollah had not intentionally sought to put them in harms way. Unfortunately, people don’t bother to think about this; all they do is emotionally respond to pictures of dead civilians and draw the simplest conclusion, which is exactly what Hezbollah wants you do, and the reason why Hezbollah will continue to make sure civilians die. But the simplest conclusion is frequently the wrong conclusion. Hezbollah is solely and directly responsible for most of the Lebanese civilian deaths, because they know people will blame Israel. And secondly, Hezbollah chose to declare war on a country that is orders of magnitude more powerful then it is. The disproportionate destruction is unqualifiedly due to the actions of Hezbollah, not Israel. The world will continue to condemn Israel. But what is most troubling of all is that thousands of civilians have and will die in order to fuel Hezbollah’s propaganda campaign, and that is our fault, because we don’t really care what the truth is. Hezbollah has given us a scapegoat for their own atrocities and we are more then happy to take it, because we don’t care, I imagine.

The UN is more or less useless, which is why Israel originally intended that it did not want a UN force to patrol southern Lebanon, and why the current UN force which has been there for decades has not controled anything. The UN has not offered any substantive support in Lebanon, as they have not in Iraq. If they would, things might improve in both cases, at least a UN peace keeping mission would take away some of Hezbollah's propanda. The best solution is the one Israel offered up initially, which was a NATO lead force in southern Lebanon. NATO has had success in maintaining peace because it is not mired by feckless debating, as the UN is. However, that is unlikely to happen. NATO has demonstrated considerable reluctance to get involved in the Middle East, and I suppose I can’t blame them, as it is somewhat beyond their mandate. But rest assured the current proposed resolution will not s

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Tuesday, August 8, 2006 1:39 AM

Yeah...What he said.

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