Get real. If someone was shooting rockets into your house trying to kill you...
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UPDATED: Monday, August 14, 2006 05:43
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
But, killing the amount of people they did in response to what Hezbo did, was certainly NOT even handed.
Ok. Pick a number. Then Isreal will stop. Then the next time the Hezbos attack, we'll line up and execute that many randomly chosen innocent Lebonese alongside an equally proportional number of Hezbo soldiers. And then we'll do it again. And again. And again.
The trick here is that the Hezbos have no reason to stop. They are doing God's work after all. And the trade of a few Hezbo soldiers and however many Lebanese civilians for however many dead Jews is a good trade for them because they lack a vested interest in both Lebanon and their own soldiers.
Absolute military defeat is all they really understand...its the understanding born of their own death. That means war and wars aint pretty.
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Now, about you "solution". The US and a few others is currently trying to do similar things in Iraq. How's that going for you guys? Basically, don't tell others to do things that your not capable of doing after YEARS of trying. Especially since the US has called the UN useless on several ocassions.
And your alternative? (Silence...crickets...)
Surrender. Tribute. Perhaps the a few million dead jews will convince them to leave us alone. You, on your knees begging for peace and oil...signing away Isreal and giving a bunch of fascists a veto on American policy at home and around the world. These may not be the things you want, but this is what you are buying with your coin of appeasment. So anxious and afraid to take a stand that you end up standing for nothing and getting nothing in the end.
My way aint pretty, but I didn't start it, Isreal didn't start it, but we need to be damn sure that we end it on our terms, cause their terms are death for Isreal and American hegemony. I don't think thats a world you'd like any better then what we've got now. If it is, then we have met the enemy and its you. And you know how we treat the enemy.
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Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
i think i'd start off with hiding, don't tend to keep the hardware for responding to attack-by-rocket
I can get you a good interest rate on a slightly used Patriot missile battery. Bad credit, no credit come on down.
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Quote:Not starting the fight in the first place, they must have real good crystal balls in Israel, since they started defending themselves against those rocket attacks before they even happened.
And your alternative? (Silence...crickets...)
It's almost like Hezbollah is the one reacting to what Israel is doing innit...
Quote:Now now Hero you ain't in power yet, keep your brand of fascism to yourself.
giving a bunch of fascists a veto on American policy at home and around the world.
Quote:The dirty Arabs started it, they were born for f
My way aint pretty, but I didn't start it, Isreal didn't start it, but we need to be damn sure that we end it on our terms, cause their terms are death for Israel and American hegemony.
ks sake, born without Hero’s prior approval!Then, and get this right, they didn’t die! I mean f
k how much more do you want? Israel began the bombing first because it’s far seers saw the future!More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Get real. If someone was shooting rockets into your house trying to kill you...
I would spend my last seconds wondering why someone was doing it in the first place; then, their attempts would be successful, and I would die. Case closed.
And, I'll add this: I have no solutions for anyone. But, then again, it's not my job. My job is to go to school and get good grades so I can graduate - from high school, mind you. So, forgive me if I'm not a military mastermind.
My only other offering is that the situation in the Middle East is such a horrible, tragic situation made no better by cultural and religious tensions that I fear there will never be a long-term solution.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Not starting the fight in the first place, they must have real good crystal balls in Israel, since they started defending themselves against those rocket attacks before they even happened.
"July 12, 2006- Hezbollah fires a pair of rockets into northern Israel from southern Lebanon (note: towards Shlomi, near the Golan Heights), and guerrillas capture two Israeli soldiers during an attack along the Lebanese border between the Israeli towns of Zar'it and Shtula. Eight Israeli soldiers also die in fighting that day. In response, Israeli ground, air and naval forces attack at least eight Hezbollah bases and five bridges in southern Lebanon."- Thanks CNN
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It's almost like Hezbollah is the one reacting to what Israel is doing innit...
In 1996 between March 30 and April 11 the Hezbos reacted to Isreal by firing 50 rockets at them and engaged in cross border artillery attacks that killed a number of Isreali civilians. This lead to the Isreali provocation of Operation Grapes of Wrath, 16 days during which Isreal invaded Lebanon and attacked Hezbollah.
In June of 1993, Hezbollah reacted by launching a rocket attack on an Isreali villiage and then followed with a coordinated strike with the PLO that killed several IDF soldiers. Isreal then provoked them by staging Operation Accountability and invading Lebanon to fight the Hezbos.
Hezbollah uses the crystal balls since historically they "react" prior to the Isreali invasion. Poor fellas...they manage to be both the chicken and the egg.
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The dirty Arabs started it, they were born for f
Never even mentioned the "dirty Arabs". Thats all you and frankly I think we need to avoid negative racial commentary, especially when your defending attacks on the "dirty Jews".
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Get real. If someone was shooting rockets into your house trying to kill you...
I would spend my last seconds wondering why someone was doing it in the first place; then, their attempts would be successful, and I would die. Case closed.
You need to get your parents to tape Law and Order for you. Sometimes when people kill you its the start of the show...not the end. My favorite part is the part where we try to bring people to justice for their crimes, or the part where we try to stop them from committing the crime...or committing another one...and I like the hot Assistant DA's.
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Quote:You think Jews are dirty? I suppose that fits in with you general outlook, they're not conservative Christian American so not 'good'.
Originally posted by 'Hero':
"dirty Jews"
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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You need to get your parents to tape Law and Order for you.
I prefer reality; but, thanks for the suggestion.
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You fail to offer an alternative that stops the attacks on Isreal.
Ok, fine, you asked, remember that.
Stop stealing peoples land and murdering them for it.
Stop arbitrary shelling of civilian populations in response to the slightest hint of provocation.
Stop randomly killing folks to cause those provocations.
Stop sending troops into sovereign nations with the intent to cause trouble, and then calling it a kidnapping when the citizens of that nation do something about it.
Stop deliberately killing UN peacekeepers.
Stop shooting up hospitals and ambulances.
Stop destroying the infrastructure of another country and destablising it's government to the point where those so-called "terrorists" are the only hope of survival against Isreali aggression.
In short, stop being such complete and total dicks that the entire world, with the exception of two countries, would like to see your whole nation swirl down the great toilet bowl of history to a richly deserved fate.
Trying to stop terrorism by blowing the hell out of everything in sight is like trying to crush a handful of sand in your fist, the harder you squeeze, the more slips right through your fingers.
Every civvie killed results in that much MORE support for Hezbollah, every civvie killed proves their case and point just that much more - you don't break such a thing by bombing it, you break it by removing the logical incentive for them to act or the populace to support their actions.
International Law, Common Sense, and Simple Decency is wholly against Isreal on this.
Sending an infantry squad into another country, accompanied by a tank, and then when residents of that country blow up the tank, kill off most of the infantry and take some prisoner, blasting the hell out of their country, is an act of aggression, and this overwhelming and (admitted, mind you.) pre-plotted "retaliation" smacks of a certain radio station incident on the polish border, doesn't it now ?
Some folks are saying "Oh my god, they've gone mad", but folks, it's ALWAYS been the case, information technology has just given the world a window on events beyond the usual propaganda spouted since the 1950's - and if you ever wondered why the middle east doesn't like us very much, you need look no further than our unilateral support of a bunch of bloodthirsty conquerors that put Cortez and his slaughter of Aztecs to shame.
It rooks me to see our money going to folks who have committed terrorist attacks against the UK, and our people, repeatedly in the past, and in every case trying to frame arabic countries for the acts, from the King David Hotel bombing (celebrated as a holiday over there, insultingly) by the Irgun in 1944, to the Lavon Affair, to the attack on the USS Liberty, they have a history of terrorism every bit as bad as any other middle eastern nation.
(And yes, it rooks me to see our money going to OTHER countries guilty of the same.)
I'm not calling anyone innocent nor justifying anything, but dammit I am sick and tired of us verbally and financially supporting one end of a pack of bloodthirsty, psychotic goons no better than any other pack thereof in the region, and somehow making excuses for what they do, while pitching a fit when someone else does it.
They wanna kill each other, fine - but not on MY dime, dammit.
-Frem
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So what I'm reading here is ,most of you would just die.
You would die because you don't feel any thing is right and because nothing is right you think all will be OK in the end?
The key word is TRYING...
I didn't say you were already dead (maybe you are that's your problem)
Help me out here... umm ... how many of you would defend yourselves and loved ones and property?
I need to know.
I can excuse someone being chicken, but someone who doesn't care about their own...well that's just selfish.
By the way, calling me an idiot or Troll shows what you really are. I don't need Highfalutin $20 words and 3 pages to get my point across.
One more thing, Israel didn't start this action get your facts right.
I've been through the system.
It don't work.
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