IMHO the biggest problem we face is...

POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Friday, August 4, 2006 06:38
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ANTIMASON

Thursday, August 3, 2006 6:56 PM

does anyone realize that this world is the kingdom of Satan, that the ways of this world are not of God, that to love the world is to deny the father, or that you cannot serve both God and Money; that it was trade which corrupted Satan?

"how you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! you have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! you said in your heart:
"i will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God; i will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. i will ascend above the tops of the clouds; i will make myself like the Most High."
But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. those who see you stare at you, they ponder your fate; is this the man who shook the earth, and made kingdoms tremble..?" Isaiah 14:12-17

"You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you...your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. you were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so i ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. THrough your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. so i drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and i expelled you, O guardian cherub, from the the fiery stones. you heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. so i threw you to the earth; i made a spectacle of you before kings. by your many sins and dishonost trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. so i made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and i reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. all the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more." Ezekiel 28:12

i bring this up because i am not so sure that Man is achieving his purpose, or that we are nsync with nature, or that economics was our destiny.

RUE

Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:07 PM

Well, not being a christian I feel free to criticize without also being a hypocrite. I keep pointing out to self-identified christians that Jesus says you must give up love of earthly things in favor of love of the father and neighbor. And I keep pointing out how Jesus is all about forgiveness and turning the other cheek, and not about vengeance and smiting. But it's not necessarily my belief.

HERO

Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:52 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:
i bring this up because i am not so sure that Man is achieving his purpose, or that we are nsync with nature, or that economics was our destiny.

Jesus ackowledged commerce and government. "Render unto Caesar" and such.

I think your to hard on the world. There's good and bad. Sometimes more of one and less of the other, but generally trending towards the good.

God gave us free will. That acknowledges everything that came after in the hearts and works of Man. So while I may have impure thoughts about Jessica Alba (which is understandable...but not so good), I acknowledge that it aint right and I ought to stop(which is good or at least an honost effort). Most people are in the same boat more or less (although I think some folk need to focus more on Miss Alba and less about killing Jews or whatever...I'm just sayin).

H

FELLOWTRAVELER

Thursday, August 3, 2006 9:26 PM

Won't global warming be an extremely effective method of population control?

I'm reasonably sure we are well on our way to wiping out at least 1/2 the population.

Have a little faith, we'll get it done!

CANTTAKESKY

Thursday, August 3, 2006 9:31 PM

Hey Rue or SignyM,

Have you guys come across any literature or study that compared the amount of greenhouse gases (CO2 and water vapor) produced by 6 billion people breathing in a year, to the amount of greenhouse gases produced by fossil fuel emissions in a year?

Not trying to prove any point. I'm merely curious how much of a difference there is.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

RUE

Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:21 PM

It should be fairly easy to estimate.

1 kg per person per day - however, since it is carbon from plants (or from animals from plants) it's a closed system with no net increase in CO2.

RUE

Friday, August 4, 2006 12:53 AM

FellowTraveler:

"Won't global warming be an extremely effective method of population control?"

I have no issue with that, it's just that the rest of the planet will go down with us.

KANEMAN

Friday, August 4, 2006 1:02 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
It should be fairly easy to estimate.

1 kg per person per day - however, since it is carbon from plants (or from animals from plants) it's a closed system with no net increase in CO2.

How so? more people and less plants to neutralize.

RUE

Friday, August 4, 2006 3:12 AM

You could say CO2 or carbon. Assuming that there are too many people and not enough plants, the number of people goes down, and then the number of plants goes up. Either way there is the same amount of carbon in the system either as CO2 or in reduced form (cellulose, lignin, starch and sugar ... ) but it shuttles back and forth in negative feedback cycles.

ANTIMASON

Friday, August 4, 2006 6:38 AM

i just wanted to make this comment:

global warming, regardless of whether it is a naturally occurring or man made phenomenon, or whether or not its really even happening is irrelevant.

Global warming if anything, will just be ceased as a tool to control peoples lives through fascist, socialist, communist..whatever -ist means you want to throw in there.

i happen to believe that the earth is entering a new age, a different place in the universe, and the earth changes are physical correlations we can draw upon. i think that an agenda is being pushed that will use planetary crisis as a means to instigate draconian, suppressive laws, in order to undermine personal liberties, and to inhibit and potentially reduce the worlds population.

i hope you all know, population control is a stated agenda of the NWO crowd. dont believe the NWO exists? straight from the horses mouths http://www.911kemet.co.uk/nwoquotes.html#Kissinger

i also listed this article, which is in agreement that Global Warming is a NWO agenda
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/6/greenhouse.htm

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