should they continue making firefly?

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UPDATED: Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:55
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ZZETTA13

Monday, July 31, 2006 3:34 PM

It makes me sick to think of what Fox did to this show.Evidently not a single Fox exect watched any of it. I'm sure they were to busy looking at their paperwork and going to their offices each Monday morning (or whatever day after an eps aired) and looked at the generated viewer numbers. Unhappy they decided to can it before the end of the first season.

It really makes my stomach turn everytime I watch an eps of the series or the BDM and know that the excellence and craftmenship of this show is not continuing.They're milking it for every last bit of coin they can suck out of the public. Years from now when Summer turns 30 is not the time for someone to think " Hey we should give Firefly another shot". The time is now. If the numbers aren't stronger than before I would be more than happy to say FF was a show before its time.

You know a painter can paint a masterpiece. But if the painting is stored in the basement and no one knows about it isn't a masterpiece at all is it?

Surely someone close to the powers that be at Fox has brought this to their attention?

I've come across some hardheads in my time but I'm begining to think that Fox Studios is the training ground.

Would the show be worth making again? IMO I think so. But it needs to be soon. If the waiting game is what these ppl are playing here then for sure FF will fail. Why? In time it will loose some of the interest generated by dvd sales and web fan forums. If restarted with new characters and the like it may not be worth a rotten goose egg. Then Fox can say "See told you it wasn't a successful show." Is this what they're waiting for?

There's an old saying "Better to have tried and failed than never tried at all." Browncoats around the globe are say "Please" try once more. Whether the movie or tv companies are listning is another question.There is $$ to be made. Hope someone on a higher level has the brains to see it.

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ONEMANSHORT

Monday, July 31, 2006 3:49 PM

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Originally posted by Darkfly:
There has to be at least another movie or series because if there isn't either then we we'll not be talking about Firefly/Serenity in a few years,it will always be remembered as the flop TV series and the flop movie and we don't want that to happen do we.We want their to be another movie or series so that this time it will be popular and continue the story.We NEED another series or movie.

I have to disagree with you a little bit here. I don't think that Firefly will ever be remembered as a flop in any way, because a flopping tv show does not produce a flopping movie. I would love another series, the only thing I'm curious about is if Joss is still pushing for it, the way he was pushing for Serenity to be made. Maybe he feels his mission has been accomplished now... I think if any show proves that a change in character/situation can be successful, Red Dwarf is it. That show only had 4 characters, they got rid of one of them, replaced him with a woman, brought him back, then put the characters in jail, and still had an excellent series. I think if there's one thing Joss has, it's imagination, and Browncoats should be open to new characters, etc... Although I don't know how I would feel if Jayne was ever killed off...but there would be tears...actually there was tears when Wash was killed...more tears I guess. The whole dynamic of the show would change, but there's no guarantee that change would be for the worst. I personally am a fan of ignoring the movie, because there should have been a season 2 instead of the movie in the first place.

PURPLEPENGUIN91

Monday, July 31, 2006 3:52 PM

Okay, here are my two cents. I agree with Darkfly and everyone else who said they'd love more to the show. What we did, getting a major motion picture was amazing, but wouldn't it be great if our story didn't end with that motion picture essentially failing? Morena has a quote in Done the Impossible about how great it would be if there were sequel after sequel. And I don't want this great journey we've all taken to end with a movie that barely broke even.

Here are my thoughts regarding the story. I think it would be different, and the dynamic of the show would change alot, but I have enough faith in Joss to be okay with that. Take Buffy and Angel for example, throughout the series he would kill regular cast members, or they would leave for some reason or another. And we would gain great new characters, even if we loved the old ones. And occasionally the show's dynamics would change, but that just made it more interesting to watch.

The other thing I want to say is this. I haven't been active in the Browncoat community for a while, I felt the movie gave me some closure, and I moved on, and found new television interests. Recently though, I started going back to some of the other boards and joining chats, and I just watched Done the Impossible, and I realized that I'm not ready to let this die. I don't want to move on, even if I have to wait, or even if we don't have a chance in hell of continuing the story, I'm not finished with the firefly verse.

SIGMANUNKI

Monday, July 31, 2006 4:11 PM

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Originally posted by 22Claws:

I don't want to spoil anything but the bodycount does get pretty high before it's over.

Not really that high, at least for core characters.

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There was a reason why when at the end before everyone went to there posts Xander, Willow, Buffy and Giles ONLY where standing there discussing things. They were the only core characters throughout and that is reminisent of that fact.

Furtheremore, it was what 2 other "main" characters that died. I'm not including potentials here.

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Originally posted by 22Claws:

I vote big YES to more firefly. Reconciling the events of the movie, while challenging, is not an insurmountable feat for a great writer. These are exactly the type of challenges that make Joss a genius.

But, I must point out how much the ending of Buffy sucked. It really was trite. Perhaps you see it differently, but I really see that (and some other things) as Joss's powers starting to fail. We'll see of course in his future work, but I really think that he is passing out of his prime.

Not sure if he's up to the task anymore. Perhaps too many "yes men."

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MILFORD

Monday, July 31, 2006 6:02 PM

They definitely should keep making it because if I have to suffer through one more doctor/lawyer/detective show about new relationships or starting over I'm going to jump off a bridge. A big one.

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SHO

Monday, July 31, 2006 6:30 PM

There should definitely be a continued TV series of Firefly. Sequels to the movie would be great, but this is a show that excelled due to it's character development and relationships. Dealing with the...absence...of certain characters might be difficult, but ultimately opens up the story line even more.

But, I do not agree that the finite episodes available are classic and the story is now unattainable. If anthing, it begs to be explored, and the chance of a slightly less fantastic episode mixed into a new series is no justification for denying the series. IMHO.

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CYBERSNARK

Monday, July 31, 2006 7:55 PM

Look at it this way; the character Joss brings in to replace Book and/or Wash might well end up being the Firefly equivalent of Spike, or Wesley, or Fred, or Illyria. . .

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22CLAWS

Monday, July 31, 2006 8:33 PM

I was actually talking about Angel. Not Buffy.

Check the core character carnage.
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ZOID

Monday, July 31, 2006 9:19 PM

Fellow 'coats:

I 'strongly agree' that Firefly should be continued, in order of preference, as a series, as a mini-series, or as a series of movies. Sadly, having to wait four years between movies seems the most likely outcome, unless Jerry Bruckheimer gets involved... Does anyone really want that?!

And I'm gonna play the 'Orson Scott' card, in explanation: I'm am a huge aficionado of written science fiction. All that is best in imaginative fiction can be found within this genre. (NB: Also, a lot of utter cr*p, but I digress.) The very best fiction -- of any genre -- is a study of how The Individual deals with conflict, the lessons learned, the rising up and the falling down and the rising back up again.

We all deal with this in our daily lives. The problem is that we are absorbed in the minutiae of our culture, to the extent that we cannot clearly see where our internal motivations begin to blend with cultural imperatives. In short, it's hard to see The Individual in fine definition, when placed against a cultural background that's too familiar to us, the readers.

So... Really well-done science fiction changes the culture so that The Individual can be seen in stark contrast to ourselves. The only thing left is the dis/similarities between the protagonist/antagonist and the reader. A capable craftsman can thereby explore what it really means to be Human.

The problem has always been (and still continues to be) that rank-and-file 'entertainment users' wouldn't know actual science fiction if it bit them in the a$$! The general public -- and studio executives at every level -- think science fiction is ray guns and light sabres and reptilian-looking aliens. I'm not saying that stuff isn't entertaining; I'm saying it's not science fiction.

In conclusion then, this is precisely why we need more Firefly. Firefly, as Orson Scott Card so aptly put it, is the only true science fiction show ever aired on television. And there's d*mned little of it in the movies...

Can't quite put your finger on why you love Firefly so much? Welcome to the ranks of science fiction lovers, my friends... And I don't mean that in a condescending, 'hey! newbie!' kinda way either.

As any long-time science fiction lover will tell you, that feeling of 'I love this and I can't quite put my finger on exactly why' is common to every excellent piece of work within the genre. I'm still wondering and speculating over the implications of "Dune", read some 25 years ago (and reread every five years since). I don't expect it will ever end, and neither will my love for -- and desire for more of -- Firefly...

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
On a deviously related side note: Why do those of you who think Firefly should be permanently discontinued still hang around these boards? Just to stir up resentment?

I'd like to think not. I'm inclined to believe that you don't really know why you linger here. You may say, 'For the camaraderie' or '...community'; but I think it goes back to the unique power of science fiction to leave you transfixed with Wonderment, and the contemplation of what it means to be human.

Firefly is science fiction, and we need more of it in the entertainment world.
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FIZZIX

Monday, July 31, 2006 9:22 PM

Guys... this is gonna sound mean, but if we get the series back.... the first season just won't feel as individual. It won't have the Firefly-esque feel to it. By Firefly-esque, I mean, cancelled show, huge fanbase. Then it's a recusitated show. To me, yes, good, new Firefly. But then it's probably gonna be betrayed by non pure essence of what is firefly.

*begins taking own measurements for coffin, and looking into how much it would be to be put into orbit into a proto-planet at some time in the future.*

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