should they continue making firefly?
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UPDATED: Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:55
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Should they keep making it?
YES! YES! YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!
*cough* As I've mentioned several times before, I was a fan of Buffy and Angel before I saw Firefly. The best thing, the very best thing, about those shows was watching the characters' personalities unfold over time. Joss is in love with his characters, and he tells the most incredible stories. The cruellest loss for me when Firefly was cancelled was all those stories as yet untold, all those little things that would happen gradually to each of the BDHs. I love that we got the BD Movie, but for me television is where Joss really comes into his own. I wanted to get to know these characters, the same way I'd gotten to know the cast of Buffy and Angel. And while I'd be thrilled as heck at Serenity II, I still long for the TV show.
You said it DesktopHippie. My hope is a return to television. A two hour movie could never hold a candle to nearly 22 hours of show. Oh the arcs, and character development, etc. I'll take anything Joss, but I long for his return to tv. And nothing would make me happier than to see Firefly return. I hear what some of you are saying, things would be different, perhaps the group dynamic would have changed. But I believe there is so much story yet to be told, and I get excited thinking about how the characters would have evolved and been fleshed out under Joss' hand. Additionally, from everything I've seen and read these actors sincerely liked each other, and enjoyed working together. I think the magic and chemistry was there on our BDM, and time had passed since Firefly was wrapped, so... Bottom line, even if it is a lesser version than the original, if somehow the lightning in a bottle effect isn't there or isn't as strong. I'll take it. Don't even have to think twice. More Firefly is not a question I could ever say no to. It deserves a second chance, and I hope to hell to see it achieve that someday.
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they must. Please Mother of Mercy let there be more. Every shadow is perfect. Every bolt and drop of glue on every set makes me weep tears of joy. Every word is gold. When I get tenure, Firefly will be on the course outline. It's too rich, too carefully engineered to exclude. I've worked with aborted texts before, particulary Chaucer, and I beg: do. not. let this wonderful tale be another aborted text. It's too painful to wonder what other glories could have been.
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Originally posted by JaynesBowie:
I don't know. That may be true when using different writer, but Joss always kept Buffy new and intresting, even after killing off Buffy.
The problem is though, the there has been a *long* time between cancel to new series.
Basically, what's going to happen is the if Joss uses the 'verse from the series, a lot of people that got introduced to it through the movie are going to complain. Similarly for those who started with the series if he uses the 'verse from the movie.
IF there is more, it'll have to be the movie following one line, and another series following another w/ different characters.
Otherwise, I really don't see it going well.
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You know, before seeing this thread, I'd always thought yes. Book was the concience of Serenity, but no one particularly cared about him unless he was the reason they were watching the show.
Wash, on the other hand, tends to cause a problem when he's all... missing. E.g. not with the living, breathing, crew. There was a reason Joss was able to bring Buffy back -- there was magic. Wash was kinda ... oh, let's use one of my prettyful faux Klingon words here. Thoguh.("THO-guh" verb. To impale beloved characters, typically from a movie. Examples, Wash, Qui-Gon Jinn.) If I were to be impaled by a spike that was the size of a telephone pole, I wouldn't live. I wouldn't get ressurected. There's no way. What possible reason is there for Wash to come back? That's the only way the series ought to come back, with full complement. I don't want a series without Wash. If this makes me unBrowncoat ish, slap a redshirt on me and send me on an away mission on the TOS era, but really.
If I just launched into an argument you don't want to read, follow the unBrowncoat ish instructions above, but consider this: Wash is what got me hooked on Firefly, the "This Land" is my favorite 'verse moment, closely followed by "Define Interesting". Both are Wash. I love Mal, but the series just shouldn't go on without Wash.
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Like others have said, Joss is a genius when it comes to television. I was an avid Buffy fan and fell in love with the characters more and more as time progressed. I would love to see the return of Firefly, with it following the movie. The FF characters will have ups and downs, especially after the traumatic events of the movie, but I think that's the point and makes the characters all the more human and allows us to relate. Just because the revival of Firefly may bring about some changes, I still think Joss will be able to pull it off. Of course the original episoes will be regarded as the classics. I, for one, have faith in the man they call Joss.
But hey, if not that, I'll take Serenity II!
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I dont care in what form it comes in, i just want more, gimme gimme gimme!
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To me, the show could be brought back without Wash. I mean, to be honest, Joss is very good at killing people off and then continuing on. Grief and pain and mending are all pretty common in his shows. I think it would be very interesting to see what happens after the BDM. River might replace Wash as pilot, or Mal and River could copilot. Or there might be the introduction of a new character as pilot (not my favorite option though). And the new crew dynamic sans Wash and Book would be very interesting to explore. What would happen without Book providing conscience, would someone else step up? Who? And without Wash, what happens to Zoe? How does the crew mend, and relationship's change? What about Simon and Kaylee now that they're together? How is there relationship going to be? How is River? What's her condition, and how does her relationship with Simon change now that she is more sane? All sorts of possibilities for change and adaptation, i think the show could be very good without Book and Wash.
My answer is an emphatic YES! Heck, i think it'd be good to get a movie or mini-series. But my favorite option is another series. I just love it so much and there are so many unanswered questions. The relationships, the adventures, the emotions and healing and all of that. There's plenty left to see!
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Originally posted by Fizzix:
You know, before seeing this thread, I'd always thought yes. Book was the concience of Serenity, but no one particularly cared about him unless he was the reason they were watching the show.
Wash, on the other hand, tends to cause a problem when he's all... missing. E.g. not with the living, breathing, crew. There was a reason Joss was able to bring Buffy back -- there was magic. Wash was kinda ... oh, let's use one of my prettyful faux Klingon words here. Thoguh.("THO-guh" verb. To impale beloved characters, typically from a movie. Examples, Wash, Qui-Gon Jinn.) If I were to be impaled by a spike that was the size of a telephone pole, I wouldn't live. I wouldn't get ressurected. There's no way. What possible reason is there for Wash to come back? That's the only way the series ought to come back, with full complement. I don't want a series without Wash. If this makes me unBrowncoat ish, slap a redshirt on me and send me on an away mission on the TOS era, but really.
If I just launched into an argument you don't want to read, follow the unBrowncoat ish instructions above, but consider this: Wash is what got me hooked on Firefly, the "This Land" is my favorite 'verse moment, closely followed by "Define Interesting". Both are Wash. I love Mal, but the series just shouldn't go on without Wash.
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While, on one hand, your words about Wash touch my Wash-loving heart (he's what got me hooked, too)... on the other hand, I don't see any reason why a lack of Wash should stop the series from coming back. It could never truly be the same without him. No way! But, the series was extremely good and it could still be extremely good without Wash. As much as it hurts to say that, it's true, IMO. It wouldn't be the same dynamic or story as it was with him... but, it would still be Firefly. It isn't like he's the only star of the show, as much as he's my favorite part of it; all the BDHs are equally a huge part of the show (i.e. equally stars). So, even though losing one of them is painful, especially when that one is your favorite, I don't think it would destroy the whole show.
Besides... at least in any future movies that may be made... he's coming back somehow. I haven't figured out how, but I have seen the articles where they say Alan Tudyk (and Ron Glass) does have a contract for the sequals, if and when they're made. So, at least in the movie, we're somehow getting some Wash! Perhaps Joss could do the same for at least parts of the series?
(By the way, Fizzix - I love those moments, "This Land" and "Define Interesting", as well. My favorite, though, has to be "Here's something you can't do." And, of course, there's always (the 1st!) "Leaf on the Wind"... <3)
I also want to address the notion that those who were introduced to Firefly through the movie would complain if the series continued in more of a Firefly-ish direction. I don't know who said this, I can't recall at the moment, but as someone who knew Serenity first, I whole heartedly disagree. Honestly, I love the series more than the movie, despite seeing the movie first, and I would be thrilled to see Firefly return in ANY form. I think most people who truly love the movie will love the series and any potential continuation, too, despite any differences.
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Please bring it back!
I just started watching Firefly about two weeks ago and I have never been this hooked on any show or movie like this. Last week I bought both the DVD set and the movie and have been showing them to all my friends since. They too are blown away with the show and are completely lost on why it never "made-it." I just bought the graphic novel and I can't wait for it to get in the mail.
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