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Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:12 PM

One of my favorite Jayne moments (there's so many, it's hard to choose ) has to be in Shindig.

"Had a problem with your attitude is why. Felt you was... what's the word?"

"Pretentious?"

The look on Mal's face is priceless. I think that scene really catches the idea that there is more to Jayne than most people see.

Have to think about some of the others.

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"Now they see the sky and they remember what they are."

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:52 AM

Actually my moment of real, true love with Jayne was when he asked Mal what he was going to tell the others at the end of 'Ariel'...

Mal: "about what?"

Jayne: "About why I'm dead..."

The look of concern on his face - it's not death that he's afraid of, but that he cares what people think of him even after he's gone... that little moment of insecurity and concern even when it's his imminent death we were all thinking about...

"I love my Captain!"




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Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:46 AM

Mal - When he shoots first and ask questions later(like that scene with Agent Dobson). I hate it when heroes always try to talk things out with villains who can't be reasoned with.


"The General has given me the pick of all the men that can be spared and ordered me to defend the Pass. I realize what a terrible task has been given me. And yet I feel that this is the most glorious moment of my life. What I do is done for my beloved country. No sacrifice can be too great." -- Gen. Gregorio del Pilar, Battle of Tirad Pass(Dec. 2,1899)

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:41 PM

I think i have to say every character.

Mal: hard to pick the one moment I fell in love with Mal I think it gradually built through the pilot and on the when I shoot you you'll be awake facing me and armed thing it was love

Zoe: When I watched the series with my friend the first time I didn't really understand what made Zoe her favorite character and then I saw War stories and it made sense. I think the personal decisions she makes in that episode really caused me to add Zoe to my list of favorite characters in Firefly (there's ten on the list)

Wash: First scene he's in with the dinosaurs that did it for me

Jayne: I saw Ariel first out of all the episodes and at the end of Ariel when he said to make up something i think I fell in love

Kaylee: "That's my girl" at the end of the pilot that did it

Inara: Hard one I have to with the man of mystery line

Simon: Safe one of the first episodes I saw that made me realise what he's given up and made me not only respect him but love him

River: Also Safe when she danced

Book: the special hell line

Serenity: I have to say first moment she zoomed of into space.

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:17 PM

From the pilot, when Mal is told they are to lay down arms. I found the anguish conveyed in his expression to be truly moving and it made the character seem more real...

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:52 PM

BDM trailer - Mal and Wash, "Define interesting?" "Oh God, Oh God we're all going to die?"

So I thought I ought to get the box set, see what this was about before I saw the movie...

I'll admit to watching it for the Fillion eyecandy initially. And then I got hooked. The bicker, the snark, the psychotic humour, the big sexy man with the gun...

And then Mal opened the little box of crazytime.

The ball-game at the beginning of 'Bushwhacked' really gave me the sense of family there.

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:03 PM

I saw The Train Job on Fox, the very day the series premiered.

While I enjoyed the show start to finish, I'd have to say that my major character revelation came at the end of the ep when Mal kicked Crow through the engine.

I shot right up out of my chair, yelling. That's when I knew this spaceship captain was no Jean-Luc Picard. (I almost missed the punch line with Niska's other henchman, I was yelling so loud. I don't think I've ever reacted quite like that to a scene of a TV show. I don't remember what I yelled, but it was probably something along the lines of "HO-ly S**T!!! HOOOOO-ly S**T!!!" And I am not one given to swearing much.)




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Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:51 PM

Mal: Just focus! The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley and we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible and that makes us mighty. Just a little while longer, our angels are gonna be soaring overhead raining fire on those arrogant cod, so you hold! You hold! Go! **During this little speach, I thought I loved him. But when he found out they weren't comin' for him, and the look on his face with people falling behind him...I KNEW I loved him.

Zoe: I think out of everyone, Zoe took me the longest. But I think that's almost how it was meant to be, because that's how she is, takes awhile to warm up to people. But what really got me was in "The Train Job", where Mal says "That's why we lost you know, superior numbers." And Zoe answers "Thanks for the reenactment sir." Small moment, but really gave me a sense of Zoe.

Wash: That's right, of course, 'cause they wouldn't arrest me if we got boarded, I'm just the pilot. I can always say I was flying the ship by accident.

Kaylee: I loved Kaylee from the moment she opened her mouth. "You are a nice man, Captain. You always looking after us. You just gotta have faith in people." and then "It's nobody's fault, okay?"

Jayne: Hah, Jayne! First I loved him because of well...well, have you seen Jayne? But I agree with a lot of people, it was when he said "Don't tell 'em what I did."

Book: I brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.

Inara: Inara took a little longer, almost as long as Zoe. But when she suggest to Book that he pray for them...and then says "Don't tell him. I never do."

Simon: Now really, Simon irks me, but you can't help but love his devotion to River, and I think that's what allowed me to let him in. When he says "Mei-mei, everything I have is right here."

River: River is wonderful, in an endearingly crazy kind of way. But when Simon asks if she knows who he is, and she shoots him a look and says "Simon." Underneath everything, she's still his sister. And I love that.

Mal: You know, you ain't quite right.
River: It's a popular theory.

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:36 PM

Ahhh...Sweet topic! I love these kinds of things, and have a tendency to go overboard. So...why fight it, I say!

Mal: I know we're supposed to pick one moment, but Mal is such a complex character that it's really hard to button down. My favorite for him is one from the movie. The fact that its boiled down from a longer, expanded scene doesn't bother me. The way its presented in the movie is beautiful. Mal, having ordered everyone to make Serenity look as much like as Reaver ship as possible, has a quiet, alone moment. You can see the weight of the task he has set before himself begin to crush his spirit, but, he waits until no one's around to see it. A close second occurs in the Battle of Serenity Valley sequence in Serenity pt 1. As Bendis is gunned down next to him (and he doesn't even blink) you can see utter defeat in a man who, up to this point, we have been shown is resistant to such things. (And, another would be from Out of Gas...The look of pure love he bestows on Serenity in the shipyard! Whatever they pay Nathan Fillion, it ain't enough.)

Jayne: Of course, there's so many moments to like about this character. And, for all his gruffness and hard exterior, he's easily the weakest willed and tempest tossed member of Serenity's crew. He's mediocre at being good, and very good at being bad. There are obvious ones (Ariel, Jaynestown), but Jayne's ability to put the right words...the truth to a situation is, again, displayed prominently in the movie. His argument with Mal over why River is still on the ship (Hey! I'm TALKIN' AT YOU!), coupled with the fact that Mal turns around and hears him out shows that the big man commands respect, even from the captain he serves under. Another, and, its very small and quick, occurs when Book is saying a silent blessing over the meal. The way he immediately bows his head, you can almost see him strain to come up with his own prayer. Jayne is another complex character, but moreso than most of the crew. (One more. In The Message, when Jayne is reading the letter from his mother...you can almost hear the respect he gives this woman in his voice.)

Zoe: Poor Zoe, always caught between the man she loves, and the leader she respects. Most people don't mention it, or if they do, they mention it in a negative why, but I liked the exchange between Zoe and Wash in Heart of Gold about having children. Zoe's earnestness on the topic is heartbreaking, and you can tell that this is a subject these two have covered before. It brings up a host of questions, and of course Wash is right about the environment they live in...That Zoe hears him out speaks though she wants a child badly speaks to how much she loves and understands her husband. (A personal favorite for me...When she socks Saffron in Trash...And then agrees to her plan! If a more succinct way to say Don't cross me again has ever been shown, then I missed it!)

Wash: He's so goofy! But, there is a kind of cementing in the crew with Wash. He does manage to hold things together, bringing practicality and logic in when it would appear no one else will. He's not really cut out for the mercenary for hire life, but, we all know why he's on that ship. Serenity pt 2 shows that he's calm under fire, and more than capable as the pilot of Serenity. (One more...in Trash, you can tell he's having problem keeping Serenity at the altitude the rest of the crew wants him to. When Zoe tells him they're clear his "Roger that!" could not have been more packed with relief.)

Book: Ah...our man of mysteries. Which is saying a lot because Firefly is loaded with them! Serenity pt 2...During the little town hall meeting where Mal indicates that he will throw Simon off the ship, no matter where it is at the time, warrants some hard speculation from the Shepherd: "I'll not stand idly by while there's..." And, you already know he can back up his claims. There is real threat from this supposedly peaceful man of God in that one statement. Beyond that...any conversation he has with Jayne is remarkable! That these

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:37 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
I saw The Train Job on Fox, the very day the series premiered.

While I enjoyed the show start to finish, I'd have to say that my major character revelation came at the end of the ep when Mal kicked Crow through the engine.

I shot right up out of my chair, yelling. That's when I knew this spaceship captain was no Jean-Luc Picard. (I almost missed the punch line with Niska's other henchman, I was yelling so loud. I don't think I've ever reacted quite like that to a scene of a TV show. I don't remember what I yelled, but it was probably something along the lines of "HO-ly S**T!!! HOOOOO-ly S**T!!!" And I am not one given to swearing much.)




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You know...that was my very same reaction back when I watched this episode back in 2002! I loved it! Good choice!

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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