Anybody ever watch Enterprise?

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CAPNRAHN

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:40 AM

I like the concept but the writer have forgotten what they were doing.

All the inconsistancies are because we are not in the smae timeline of Kirk and Co.

Picard and crew frelled up the time line a bit in "First Contact"

About the NX 01 ... Remember when Cochran looked thu the scope at the Enterprise in orbit?

Now pretend you are Cochran and do not know what the E-E really looks like ... and now you know you have done some thing VERY historical ... well dammit! lets trump my future and make it 'better' by working HARDER on warp travel and get warp 5 long before it was achieved in the TOS timeline.

Thus this entire timeline is a split and the future will be differant ... allows the buggers at ViaCom to re-invent the Trek stuff ... most non-SciFi fans would LAUGH if they tried to do the sets and costumes that were used in the 60s Trek...

Gotta remember ... they want NEW fans...

Sigh, but they have lost their ideas on the Temporal Cold War and gone and smashed it in with this September 11th parallel... sigh ...

DesignFlaw brings up a point about the borg ... in the Ent epi, they never said their famous statement ... So archer and the crew did not know what the Race name was...

Firefly, FarScape ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

DRAKON

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:21 PM

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Originally posted by ladyjayne:
Enterprise truly sucks.

Seconded.

The setup for all the various Star Treks were pretty good, the characters, the setting, the ships. What they lacked, since about season 6 of Next Generation, was writing. They had these great ideas and setups, and essentially wasted it on lame anti-morality tails and unrealistic adherence to the "Prime Directive"

Enterprise lost me when their ship's doctor argued to allow an entire race suffer and die from a disease he could cure, solely to allow some other species to maybe evolve intelligence.

If I were Captain Archer, I would have spaced that damn doctor and given the folks instructions for curing their disease. How any doctor could even consider such a course of action, well...

Ain't seen it since.

Voyager suffered the same problem. Janeway trying to keep two crews together, good premise. Then first chance they have to go home and she blows it to prevent violating the Prime Directive? Chakota would be Captain and Janeway would either be locked up, or spaced.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

STEVE580

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:19 PM

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Originally posted by Drakon:
If I were Captain Archer, I would have spaced that damn doctor and given the folks instructions for curing their disease. How any doctor could even consider such a course of action, well...

Actually, I saw that ep...and they did give the alien species the cure. Perhaps what you're referring to is when the doctor kept a tiny strain of the disease, and put it away in storage, to allow the other alien race to survive in some form.

CAPTAINCDC

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by Ax:

"Time is a face on the water."
-Stephen King, The Dark Tower Book 4: Wizarid and Glass-

Sorry, this is completely off topic, but when I see a Dark Tower quote I get excited. Did you love Wolves of the Calla as much as myself? Can't wait till the next book. It will give me something worthwhile to do while all of these terrible shows are on the tube.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

GEORDIESTEVE2003

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:06 PM

Farscape? Innovative? Hehehehehe. I like the Muppets, well I did when I was a small child growing up, not really anymore except to keep my nephews entertained. Farscape was muppets in space, and I dont just mean the thing in a floating chair or the Pilot (which was the one exception, since it was a good idea and only looked a little crap). I found the show dull, quite like a soap opera, in the bad bad way, like daytime TV kind of fashion.

Enterprise; lots of potential, some good actors, some terrible people in charge of the whole operation who couldnt be bothered to put much effort in and so have turned the handle on the cash cow and brought out another dull series. X-Files anyone? How to turn a good franchise into a bag of brown smelly stuff and leave a sour taste in the mouth of memory when looking back. I think Trek is now going to be the same. They should have taken a break, thought about it a bit more, and brought out something new and original.

Mutant X - terrible terrible awful show, anyone heard of The Matrix for costumes, and the X-Men for story/characters/ideas. Pushing two ideas together does not make a new show, look at Fearless (alias/daredevil) and its now dead.

Enterprise might not be the worst out of this pile of refuse, but its near the bottom now, even the new series had zero pull for me.

LADYJAYNE

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:44 PM

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If I were Captain Archer, I would have spaced that damn doctor and given the folks instructions for curing their disease.

You know who else would have done that? Ben Sisko. Hence why I like DS9 better.

LJC, I concur with the Braga addition. Both Berman and Braga are completely out of touch with what makes good television.

From Chanain:

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But again, still in keeping with Star Trek tradition - taking current headlines and placing them in a futuristic setting.

No, no. I must disagree. Enterprise does not so much keep with ST tradition as much as it strictly adhere's to ST FORMULA. Plots are predictable, character actions are predictable, heck, the *dialogue* is even predictable. I really hate being able to say the line before the character says it. It's just bad writing when your audience can predict on that level.

I can't really think of any particular current headlines that they've tackled either. Granted that may be because I have only watched one ep in two years, but I sure didn't see any current social issues the entire first seaason.

--Kala

LINDEN

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:28 PM

Ok, now I feel like I should throw my two cents in on Farscape, because I really don´t see how it can be considered "dull". Granted, I think that they could have gotten on quite well without both Rygel and Pilot but storywise Farscape is beautiful and yes, innovative. Episodes like "Won´t Get Fooled Again", "Die Me, Dichotomy" and "The Choice" are some of the most emotional and brave stories I have seen depicted on tv.

Also, Ben Browder and Claudia Black are amazing, amazing actors who I easily rank among the most respected in the business. Period.

BROWNCOATS

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:37 PM

I Love Enterprise. I Think it is one of the best Star treks yet.

FAHQ

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:54 PM

Enterp00p is better than AnDUMeDUH. I'll leave that one to individual interpretation.

The most incredibly stupid thing I recall when Enterp00p was first announced, was that there was not going to be any mention in the title(s) of "Star Trek", in hopes that they would attract viewers who normally shunned anything trek.

"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

SADLITTLEKING

Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:46 AM

I watched the first season of Enterprise and I started to watch the second season but got bored with it about half-way thru and I stopped watching this season because I got bored of it again. I try to like Enterprise, but the characters are too much lacking in some sort of personality (except the doc and the dog). You could probably swap lines between them and it wouldn't matter cause it'd still come out the same.

I didn't like Voyager after too long either. I also really hated the way UPN would advertise a show as being one way and then you watch it and find out that the story is completely different from what the teasers hinted at. UPN does the same thing with Enterprise. Like when they showed teasers of Trip sacrificing his own life to save the crew and ship and made it out to be a "can't miss/everything changes from here" episode and in reality it turned out to be some story of Trip getting knocked out of action, being cloned because they need him to repair the ship, and it turns out that it's his clone that dies at the end. That kind of misleading advertising is a turn-off for me. But it really doesn't make a difference cause the show is normally a letdown for me anyway.

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