SSC Firefly Series/Episode Trailer Contest

POSTED BY: Hera
UPDATED: Thursday, August 3, 2006 15:06
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HERA

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:53 PM

Thanks Cub! Will look forward to it!

-Hera

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

IMEARLY

Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Whitefall:
I found some download sites, decent quality. Just curious if there are any without the logo is all.

But then again, with the logo means it was on TV, which means it's legal because I own the DVDs (i think). But i bet striping the DVDs is all sorts of illegal. Same with the movie i'm betting.

Let me be perfectly blunt concerning FanVid construction. It’s all illegal. Nevertheless, many people who create these shows do not mind fans making the videos as it is a form of free publicity. Publicity = Money! As long as makers of said videos are not out to make a buck, they should be fine. Now then, the acquisition of video… There are several ways. Most preferred is the DVD Rip. However most used is the downloaded video. ie Bittorrent. Personally I use DVD Rips.

There have been many posts concerning the making of the video, This is the very best out there.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/

It comes from a website dedicated to making AMV’s (Anime Music Videos). It has everything, including easy to follow instruction to the Ripping process and free and legal software (AMVapp). This was my starting point. Good luck.

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DOPEYNAME101

Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:40 PM

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Originally posted by Hera:
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Originally posted by dopeyname101:
Actually, what I meant was a single trailer utilizing footage and dialogue from both the series and the BDM.

More of a trailer fore the 'Verse, really.

Oh well. I guess I'll just go ahead and make it and not enter it in the contest.

Since we've never done anything like this afore, being new territory and all, I'm thinking we need more categories in order for this contest to work properly. This is me thinking out loud here, so:

FIRST-TIME VIDDERS
Best First Effort-Series Overview
Best First Effort-Single Episode
Best First Effort-All Episodes (14 entries)

Best Single Episode

Best Series Overview

Best All Episodes

Best None of the Above

Of course, they would have shinier titles, but this is a rough list for now.

You could enter your trailer into the "None of the Above Category". FFF are very creative people, and I don't want to squelch anyones enthusiasm because of the structure necessary in order to hold a contest in the first place.

What say you on this approach?

-Hera

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

Here's my concern: do you really think we're gonna have enough entries to distinguish it between "first-time vidders" and people with experience? In addition to the (possibly low) number of entries, there's really no way to verify if someone is, in fact, a first-time vidder. For example, I've had loads of experience with editing, but I could start a new member ID on here and say that I was a rookie (not gonna do that, but just saying.)

I also don't really get the differentiation between "all episodes" and "series overview." Unless you're saying that "all episodes" is for someone who's done an individual trailer for each episode, and "series overview" is a single trailer that covers the entire series.

I think my thing is, narrow it down to one or two categories (maybe three) and work from there. Too many categories will spread the competition (and work) too thin.

Maybe a "Best Episode Trailer" category, a "Best Series Overview" category, and either a "Best Overall" or a "Viewer's Choice" or something to that effect.

Also not sure if just views on YouTube is the best way to judge the contest. A view is just someone watching it. YouTube does utilize a rating system - maybe work that into the judging somehow? I'm not sure what kind of formula you'd need to use, since not everyone would have the same number of ratings.

Just ideas. Use 'em or don't, your prerogative.

HERA

Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:12 PM

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Originally posted by dopeyname101:
Here's my concern: do you really think we're gonna have enough entries to distinguish it between "first-time vidders" and people with experience? In addition to the (possibly low) number of entries, there's really no way to verify if someone is, in fact, a first-time vidder. For example, I've had loads of experience with editing, but I could start a new member ID on here and say that I was a rookie (not gonna do that, but just saying.)

All valid points. My hope to use this contest to inspire first-time vidders to get involved may be misplaced, since our goal is to produce highly-quality, fan-made trailers to promote the series. It may be a better idea to host a separate vid contest at a later date only for first-timers. Permaybehaps music video entries, since they're less technically challenging.

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I also don't really get the differentiation between "all episodes" and "series overview." Unless you're saying that "all episodes" is for someone who's done an individual trailer for each episode, and "series overview" is a single trailer that covers the entire series.

You are correct! "All Episodes" would be 14 videos, one for each ep. "Series Overview" would allow footage from all the episodes, and would be 1 video.

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...narrow it down to one or two categories (maybe three) and work from there. Too many categories will spread the competition (and work) too thin.

Maybe a "Best Episode Trailer" category, a "Best Series Overview" category, and either a "Best Overall" or a "Viewer's Choice" or something to that effect.

I was soldiering on in the hope that we receive more entries than we can handle, but, alas, the voice of reason has been heard to say otherwise! I'll hash out the categories with FollowMal (and possibly 11th), since the cost for the number of awards is also an issue.

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Also not sure if just views on YouTube is the best way to judge the contest. A view is just someone watching it. YouTube does utilize a rating system - maybe work that into the judging somehow? I'm not sure what kind of formula you'd need to use, since not everyone would have the same number of ratings.

Your concern is valid. It would be better to have the videos judged by a jury of peers rather than polled on youtube. Also, simple web polls can be skewed if there isn't a sign-in setup, so that may not be the way to go either. I'll look further into the judging option.

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Just ideas. Use 'em or don't, your prerogative.

I'll have more clarifying info soon. Thank you for the comments, dopeyname101. They've been very helpful.

-Hera

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

JTSKIER1200R

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:12 PM

I was just searching around youtube and I found some Very talented Firefly vidders. I think it would be worth an effort to contact them and let them know about the contest. They are making a lot of music videos, but, why not harness their talent and creativity to enter this contest and find the best of the videos?

I think it would be great to have a trailer for every episode on a website devoted to converting fans to firefly (maybe here?) I think this project could be used toward that goal, and it sounds like that is exactly what you had in mind, so you have my full support!

LEt me know if I can help out in any way, other than actually making the videos... :) I cant edit, sorry!

HERA

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:20 PM

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Originally posted by jtskier1200r:
I was just searching around youtube and I found some Very talented Firefly vidders. I think it would be worth an effort to contact them and let them know about the contest.

This is a really awesome idea, jtskier!

Would you be willing to help by contacting them and telling them about the contest? I can send you a letter to paste into their PM system to make it easier for you.

This really would help us out alot. The fff event team is stretched a little thin right now.

You can contact me direct by PMing me through my profile page if you'd like to help, and I can fill you in on the particulars!

http://fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?un=Hera

-Hera

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

JTSKIER1200R

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:08 PM

I sure will help. Anyone else know of any video boards I can look around to find people? I will search on my own, but I will try to look around.

Also, do we know what the prize is?

HERA

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:53 PM

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Originally posted by jtskier1200r:
Also, do we know what the prize is?

The Serenity ornament that will be mounted onto a trophy is shown about halfway down in this (rather long) thread.

And thank you so much for the offer of help! You rock.

-Hera

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

JTSKIER1200R

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:51 PM

Wow, thats nice. Sorry I didnt see that!

Lesson #1 of message boards: always read all the posts before asking stupid questions...woops!

JTSKIER1200R

Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:16 PM

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