What happened to Early's ship?
POSTED BY: Callahan
UPDATED: Saturday, September 30, 2006 00:32
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As for the reflection in Early's visor, I admit that it bears a slight resemblance to his ship, but I think it could just as easily have simply been an accidental reflection of some stuff on the stage he was being filmed on.
come now, does that sound like our thorough joss?
and i don't know if river and mal saw the ship fly away, they might not have.
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Quote:I know, the fan in me doesn't want to believe it's possible, but I find it more likely that he'd forget to kill a reflection than that he'd have Mal staring at the ship (see below) and not act surprised to see it fly away.
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As for the reflection in Early's visor, I admit that it bears a slight resemblance to his ship, but I think it could just as easily have simply been an accidental reflection of some stuff on the stage he was being filmed on.
come now, does that sound like our thorough joss?
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and i don't know if river and mal saw the ship fly away, they might not have.
Mal was looking at River, who was drifting towards him from Early's ship. The ship would have been right in the centre of his field of view, behind River. I just watched it again to make sure, and there's no way he could have missed it if his eyes were open.
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Mal was looking at River, who was drifting towards him from Early's ship. The ship would have been right in the centre of his field of view, behind River. I just watched it again to make sure, and there's no way he could have missed it if his eyes were open.
ah, but i just watched it again too, and i think it's possible that by the time the ship started to turn, river was down close enough to mal that his view was blocked by her or his view was totally on her and focused on trying to catch and steady her that he could have missed the ship turning. It's a possibility.
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Not sure I buy the every villain shows up twice. Don't think we have enough eps to make that judgment.
very true, we don't have enough eps to back that up that it would have happened for sure for the rest of firefly. But throughout the first season that we did have, we saw every major villian at least twice i think. so i think he would have been back. but that's just my opinion, you're right to say we don't have hard fact in the matter.
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ok im goin to check that out right now lol
i thought he'd had some kind of remote on his suit or something. i dont think he died and if they were to have the series theyd probably have him pop up again. there was 14 episodes and 3 episodes had repeeat appearances of characters. (saphrine -idk how to spell that lol-, badger, nad niska) im sure we'd see early sooner or later with no explanation at all, if the series was still runnin.
"I dont know. If i wanted schoolin' i would've went to school"
-Jayne
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I always thought it was autopilot programmed by River, but then I heard or read an interview with Joss somewhere that hinted pretty definitely that he wanted Early to come back, so I'm thinking Early called it to him somehow. Like has been said, one would have to be pretty stupid not to have a way to get back to his ship.
Glänzend!
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Originally posted by Callahan:
Yeah, that does make sense.
Especially with you being able to see it the reflection of Early's helmet.
Although his last line makes him seem pretty hopeless...but...who knows.
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I think River autopilot programmed it to fly away, and then Early later "called" to it. Mal and River would have noticed if the ship just took off on it's own. And as far as Early's last line being "hopeless", remember some of his other lines? "Am I a lion" comes to mind. His dialogue couldn't be taken at face value, there were some ummm, "layers" at work there.
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"Well... here I am. Just waitin' for my ship to catch up to me."
Joss just edited out the last part. 
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I'm pointin' right at it!
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Originally posted by onthedrift:
I think River autopilot programmed it to fly away, and then Early later "called" to it. Mal and River would have noticed if the ship just took off on it's own. And as far as Early's last line being "hopeless", remember some of his other lines? "Am I a lion" comes to mind. His dialogue couldn't be taken at face value, there were some ummm, "layers" at work there.
I can dig that explanation. Seems a bit complicated, but it's better than thinking they made a mistake.
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I think there is a comment by Joss that River conceived her plan in OiS so that no one would get hurt (if everything went to plan), and that this shows that she is at heart a good and kind person.
This would seem to suggest that River did not intend that Early die alone and slowly in the endless vacuum of space, and therefore that she sent his ship after him.
Besides, if she wanted just to kill Early, why follow such a complex plan and risk something going wrong? She could have simply shot him.
I do not think that Early had much in the way of remote control over his ship, or he would not have been so panicked at the discovery she had boarded it. Perhaps he thought that no one but himself could get in. (Recall the moment earlier in the episode where Mals says “the only way she could get in is if she knew the combination.”)
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***Besides, if she wanted just to kill Early, why follow such a complex plan and risk something going wrong? She could have simply shot him. ****
Hmm, I always thought that that was her Plan A, and that's why she grabbed the gun in the beginning of the episode. But after Mal said to her "no touching guns" she went with the other plan.
The problem with letting Early go on his ship is that he would come back again and would be more ruthless this time. River cared too much about the crew to let that happen. She shot people to save Kaylee, even though she hated it. She was ready to do the same with Early, to save people she loved.
But otherwise - Early's ship is the mystery to me. I prefer to think that the ship was reprogrammed by River to follow them, and it weered off to their cargo bay and they just stripped it of the valuables off-screen and then discarded it.
Adding: and also I'd guess River (and the others) would at least be curious to grab their search warrants and information Early gathered on them.
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