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Anybody ever watch Enterprise?

POSTED BY: truk
UPDATED: Sunday, January 25, 2004 09:58
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Monday, January 19, 2004 4:13 PM

Enterprise truly sucks. I watched a couple of eps the first season and I had to watch "Carpenter Street" this fall to see the shots of Detroit, but other than that, I just can't stomach it.

It's truly sad to see a franchise that prided itself on being cutting-edge television fall back on safe characters and plotting. They actually started doing that with Voyager, but that wasn't quite as bad as Enterprise.

Where are the social issues being tackled in an outer-space setting? Where are the surprises? Who's questioning the status quo? It just doesn't happen.

--Kala

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Monday, January 19, 2004 5:51 PM

Well, it looks like I'm very much in the minority here, but I love Enterprise.

As for the crew encountering the Borg, when the Borg went back in time in First Contact, they altered the timeline. Picard and crew shot down the vessel but not before some of the crew were able to transport on to the Enterprise. The Borg that popped up to fight Archer and crew were from that downed vessel from First Contact. Was the episode a stunt to try to boost ratings? Yes, but I think they did a pretty good job at preserving continuity. I love the show, the story, and the cast/crew. But it looks like I'm the only one on this board that feels that way. Oh well. To each his/her own.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 7:07 PM

I have to say that I really enjoy Enterprise as well. I like the fact that they're flying around in a tin can. I believe that the basic concept for the ship Enterprise, was from various submarine designs...tiny and crowded. I like that they have a somewhat faulty universal translator (god, I hated that plot point in all of the other STs...new alien? No problem, we can still talk to you!) I also like Dr. Phlox. He's one of my favorite characters.

As per Captaincdc, it seems I, too, am in the minority here.

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

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Monday, January 19, 2004 7:26 PM

At least you're not totally alone. I like it too, but hated when they drug the Borg back into things. I do think some better writing would help.

I would give it all up if I could have Firefly back.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 7:53 PM

Yawn. Its so dull I think it might be worse than Andromeda, or Farscape, or Mutant X and they are all terrible!

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Monday, January 19, 2004 8:07 PM

To me there are only three Star Trek series: TOS, TNG, and Enterprise. I never could get into Deep Space Nine and I hated Voyager.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 8:13 PM

Enterprise is definitely not as bad as Andromeda or Mutant X. SciFi bought up the rights to Andromeda and season five will be the last.

I don't like the way Enterprise has found so many excuses to muck up or ignore the original timeline. Temporal cold war? Good grief!

It has had some good episodes and good ideas. It just never follows through on them. Mostly Enterprise has been boring and woodenly acted.

I want to like it. I surely do. I just can't seem to.



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cry. He's like a monster. "

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Monday, January 19, 2004 8:18 PM

Wait one gorram minute! I liked DS9.

Well... not at first I didn't. It took a while then it got better. It stayed better for a while and then it got worse again. It had about two or three good seasons.

Still, DS9 had a lot of good episodes.

Watching Voyager must be what "special hell" is like. OK, I liked a few episodes, but a pitiful few.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 8:20 PM

I'm a TNG and DS9 fan. Voyager didn't do it for me and Enterprise seems completely unnecessary.

However, just before the holiday hiatus this season, I remember being impressed with something like three episodes of Enterprise IN A ROW! That's the first time in three seasons of Enterprise this has happened. Obviously, the potential is there. I just think the Trek premise gets ground down to the nub by the big Paramount corporate machine.

Plus, there's this silly requirement that the show produce 26 episodes a year. Why not cut that in half and focus on developing episodes of consistent quality?

Ever wonder why BBC shows are so consistent or why great BBC shows are really great? (Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, The Young Ones, Coupling, The Office, etc)? It's because the BBC rarely, if ever, produces more than 13 episodes of a show in one year. Often, only six episodes of a show are produced.

US TV execs could learn something from the BBC.

Matt

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Monday, January 19, 2004 8:22 PM

I think Andromeda had some real potential, it just suffered from bad writers and mediocre actors/actresses.

I watched the first season, & it was not too bad, though it left me a bit flat. The second season was horrible & I gave up on it like 4 episodes into it. I am surprised it has lasted to make it into a 5th season.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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