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Anybody ever watch Enterprise?

POSTED BY: truk
UPDATED: Sunday, January 25, 2004 09:58
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Monday, January 19, 2004 4:37 AM

What a stupid show...Kirk would have self-destructed the ship at this point.

The Star Trek franchise is not worth pursuing. Either get a brain behind it or give it up. How many times are these creative midgets going to use time-travel to save a story?


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Monday, January 19, 2004 5:08 AM

I have to agree... The New Star Trek is just not worth it.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 5:24 AM

I've seen a few episodes - it's probably my favorite of the Star Treks: the plot is somewhat continous, the charactors occasionally interact, several of the crew members border on having personalities, and best of all, they don't use that damned transporter.

But yes, it sucks a lot.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 5:59 AM

TRUK-I couldn't agree with you more. The scripts are tired and boring. The special effects have nothing special about them. They've looked the same for a good 15 years. The characters are not memorable. Have the same mix of people:Doctor, Science Officer, Captain, etc. Their mission seems to be getting their a**'s kicked by anyone and everyone. T'Pol looks like a hootchie momma. Did I mention the awful bucket of bolts their traveling in? I think it's time to put Trek franchise to rest. Maybe pick it back up in 20 years. R.I.P. Trekkies!!!

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Monday, January 19, 2004 6:26 AM

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Originally posted by truk:
What a stupid show...Kirk would have self-destructed the ship at this point.


Ha. Or Ricker would have driven it into a planet.

I loved the idea of seeing all the original technology invented. But the soft-core porn, time travel, and meeting the Borg (didn't they meet for the first time in ST:TNG?) just didn't do it for me. And Scott Bakula? I'd rather the dog was captain. (IMHO)

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Monday, January 19, 2004 6:35 AM

Maybe Hoshi can be the dog's translator.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 8:02 AM

As a life-long Trek fan, I loathe Enterprise. I think I might hate it even more than I hated Voyager, since it took me three seasons to give up on Voyager and only one to give up on Enterprise. Actually, I pretty much gave up on Enterprise after the frist episode, when they screwed up Trek continuity at every oppertunity, started flying around in that POS ship that's ripped off of the design of a ship from 200 years later, and having Vulcans get pissy and raising their voices when they don't get their way so that Archer can say "Ah ha! You're not so great!" Add to that forgettable characters and insipid plotlines (they really overdo the time travel stuff, and it never works if you think about it) and you've got one crap-ass show.

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Monday, January 19, 2004 11:11 AM

Actually, they did have a vaguely interesting plot opportunity - the tale of humanity breaking the vulcan suppression and dominance of other species, a struggle which (from what I gather) lead to the creation of the Federation.

But that was too cerebral for the sex-it-up-dumb-it-down crowd.

So they went to the same thing that obliterated voyager, tabloidising the plot and advert bits, and then running the same garbage plots over and over again - and yet, sickening that this is, there's precedent, as a friend demonstrated to me recently.

Romance novels.
(generally considered crap with no artistic or literary value whatsoever, might I add)..

The key to writing the damned things is to never, EVER deviate one iota from "The Formula", period.
The whole plot, characters, 'development' (if you could stoop to call it that) and the like is all pre-dictated from go, and you could very well have a friggin machine do it, and it would not make any difference.

The end result has little if any 'spark', literary or entertainment value, and exists as 'page filler' to sell books - end of story.

Star Trek has fallen into the exact same trap, they've come up with a "formula" to produce saleable screen filler with no artistic or entertainment value worth mentioning, they just slap the "Trek" logo on it and shovel it at us.

S'why I've taken to calling it "Star Drek", cause that's really all it is... Drek.

-frem
diefuxdie

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Monday, January 19, 2004 3:22 PM

What I find laughable is that every single Star Trek has had it respective crew as the first to do damn near anything. Kirk & crew were the first to time travel. Opps, guess they weren't since Archer & crew did it first. Guess they kept it so secret even Star Fleet didn't know about it.

I think the problem w/ Enterprise is that it is supposed to be the predecessor of all the others, and there is little in the way of continuity between it and the other shows. Picard & crew were the first to encounter the Borg. Opps. Guess not since Archer & crew did in the distant past. Another Star Fleet cover up, or another script/timeline screw up?

I thought the show would be cool, as I had liked the original series, STTNG, & DS9 (I HATED Voyager), and the fact they would be low tech was appealing. What do we get? Borg, races that have never been heard of, including a race who attacked Earth bent on our destruction (all seemingly forgotten by the earlier shows) who time travel to Earth's past to wipe us out (again a memory lapse on the part of Star Fleet).

The characters are dry, cardboard cutouts, and the fact they try so hard to use sex to sell the show is degrading.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Monday, January 19, 2004 3:48 PM

I like Enterprise but Firefly>Enterprise

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