Random River Moment

POSTED BY: Petaline
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 20:53
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WOW! I have never noticed any of that before. It just goes to show how much I pay attention. Thank the heavens for this site because I wouldn't have noticed anything. I'm such a boob.

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Shepard used to tell me...can't do something smart, do something right.
I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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Originally posted by MettaSutra:
The shooting script* was written like this:

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River looks confused at the sudden cacophony. Looks down in her hand -- and there is a BIG DAMN GUN in it. Pointed at Simon and Kaylee, the latter of whom looks shit-scared.

River lowers the gun, looking grouchily confused, as Simon comes to take it from her. She looks over at Kaylee, who fades out to the passenger dorm, unable to deal.

RIVER
Kaylee...?

SIMON
What were you thinking? Where did
you get ahold of this?

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Pretty interesting (as Wash would say).

Clearly the action was tightened up a bit, either in shooting or editing. Your suggestion makes sense for the as-written scene, and could still apply to the as-shot. But the latter is more ambiguous and gives us lots of room for this sort of fun discussion.


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I'm pointin' right at it!

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Has to be Rivers face when Simon says

"Am I talking to miranda now?" ... Classic ...

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OK and that cute little giggle after she says"permission to come aboard captain" is just so unRiver and yet so her. A child-like and sweet moment for both of them

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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[River has a gun trained on Mal as Mal tries to talk her down.]

Mal: The government's man, he says you're a danger to us. Not worth helping. Is he right? Are you anything but a weapon? I staked my crew's life on the theory [that] you're a person, actual and whole. And if I'm wrong, you best shoot me now.

[River cocks the gun.]

Mal: Or we could talk more.

love that bit in the movie. River doesn't say ANYTHING! yet she controls EVERYTHING!

Nothing in the 'verse can stop me

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Originally posted by msg:
OK I am realizing in Objects in Space I don't think River is hearing what they actually think. I think she is hearing what she is afraid they think about her. I could be bonkers, but I honestly think if you look at each statement....they are all negative, unkind, and in many cases not at all like the character. I mean " I would still be there ( unspoken if it wasn't for you)- Simon" I don't give half a hump if you're guilty" -Book "None of it means a damn thing"-Mal and then after she hears all this she says to herself it doesn't mean what you think...She's projecting her fears not their thoughts

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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I always though it was just River picking up on surface thoughts. But she doesn't necesarily know what the thoughts are in refrence to and may not have the ability to understand their meanings anyway. "She understands, but she doesn't comprehend."

When Book 'thinks' "I don't give half a hump if you're guilty", it could be he's thinking it about/towords Jayne and not her.

Jayne, being a more direct/simple thinker automaticaly thinks about his guilt whenever he sees River or Simon so that's what she picks up on.

When she sees Zoe and Wash on the bridge, she doesn't get any specific messages, just 'sees' more than 'hears' a warm, happy 'glow' coming from the bridge where they are.

I think Inarras thought is that she wishes Mal would just tell her how he really feels about her so they can get everything out in the open. She will NOT make the first move and want's him to before she commits herself to anything - even something so small as a few words directly to him. I kind of think that Inarras 'secret' reason for leaving home to join the crew was that she had her heart broken in the past and is extreamly carefull about forming strong attachments of any kind with anyone. She does feel for Mal, even though she won't admit it as can be seen in Heart of Gold when she cries after she finds out Mal was with Nandi. That is when she realises that she has become too close and must either leave the ship to protect her fragile heart or truly allow Mal into her heart. She isn't ready for the 2nd option so decides to run.

Mals thought of "None of it means a damn thing" could be that he thinks what he feels doesn't matter as, given the situation, he beleives (disparingly - he says the line like hes fighting tears / husky voiced and also says it facing Inarra, not River) that he believes he can never actualy have her love so none of what he feels could ever really mean a damn thing between them. When she told him she was leaving, he has took that as a personal rejection of him, not the overall situation and, of course, he would have no knowledge of my conjectured previous heartbrake of Inarra.

Anyway, so much for my insane/innane ramblings.

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Clearly the action was tightened up a bit, either in shooting or editing. Your suggestion makes sense for the as-written scene, and could still apply to the as-shot. But the latter is more ambiguous and gives us lots of room for this sort of fun discussion.

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Good point. I've heard that said about films, that they're actually "made" three times: written, shot, edited.

Yes, big fun! I'm new and enjoying the place. Like a drawn-out kinda MST3K, to hear what everybody has to say. When there's no more (yet) to be seen, least there's plenty to discuss!

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Originally posted by msg:
OK and that cute little giggle after she says"permission to come aboard captain" is just so unRiver and yet so her. A child-like and sweet moment for both of them


It seemed a defining moment for those two. Mal even smiled at River's joke about Simon being difficult because he nearly ruined her plan to take care of Early. I was left with the impression that Mal had gained some trust for River. That she wouldn't hurt them. Of course this is before the movie, Miranda and the bar fight. Even in the movie Mal trusted River to help with the robbery.

It was like at the end of the movie where Mal and River are sitting at the controls. Mal says something to the effect that she already knows what he is going to say but she wants him to say it anyway. Yes I can read your mind but what you have to say is important. Mal will never replace Simon but that makes his trust in her even more important. Just as he told Simon "You're part of the crew" in "Safe" I think Mal tries to acknowledge to River you're part of the crew. And to Mal that is family. It is the only family he has. River doesn't just read peoples thoughts. See knew Mal needed to talk about loving Serenity. So she told him she wanted to here what he had to say. She understands peoples feelings. This may not even be from the experiments. She may have had this ability to know others feelings before they experimented on her. Well I'm babbling now. But that's my theory. "Permission to come aboard captain".

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