Babylon 5

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RINGWRAITH

Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:03 PM

Since this section is about sci-fi shows, just wondering if anyone here watches (watched) Babylon 5. Plus I'm curious if anyone has seen the Showtime series "Jeremiah." Being in Canada I have no way of seeing it but I've heard it's great.

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"How will this end?"
"In fire."
--Babylon 5, 'The Coming of Shadows'
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TLSMITH1963

Sunday, May 26, 2002 2:30 AM

Yes, B5 is my favorite, & I watch Jeremiah. Hopefully, they will syndicate it like they have for Stargate SG1 so you can see it in Canada.

Tammy

HYPERMAN

Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:59 PM

Do you know when the Stargate or Farscape DVD is coming out?? The new season starts on June 7th on the SCI-FI Channel

RINGWRAITH

Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:59 PM

Originally posted by tlsmith1963:
Yes, B5 is my favorite, & I watch Jeremiah. Hopefully, they will syndicate it like they have for Stargate SG1 so you can see it in Canada.

Tammy

I've heard Jeremiah is supposed to be quite dark. Is it? I remember reading about a line that was cut from the episode (or the line was put in but the network didn't like it) about a character telling God to F-off and Showtime had a hissy fit over it. Gotta love JMS, he doesn't pull a lot of punches.

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"How will this end?"
"In fire."
--Babylon 5, 'The Coming of Shadows'
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TLSMITH1963

Friday, May 31, 2002 1:00 AM

That line *did* air--I remember it. And Jeremiah is pretty good. I'm now wondering if there will be a second season.

Tammy

ROWG3

Monday, June 10, 2002 1:22 PM

JMS rocks,loved B5 and crusade, being a brit yet to see LOTR.

Anyone else read the scrpits he put up that would have been part o fcrusades S1 that delt with another EA vessel, part shadow part human as opposed to the excaliber.

Niner's aren'tlinearwe're everywhere

SCORPIUS

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:28 PM

i think b5 kicks ass!

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Sunday, September 8, 2002 10:42 PM

The thing that I loved so much about B-5 was that it was a high concpet show. Unlike virtually every other show I have ever heard about, B5 was a fully formed story before the pilot was even filmed. This resulted in a level of complexity that most shows lack. After you've seen all the eps, you can go back and watch the earlier eps and--well there are just some scenes that send chills down my spine. Ex: S1, Londo explaing how the Sentauri (sp?) believe that they all forsee their own death, and that he had dreamed of G'Kar with his hands around his neck, squeezing. Creepy!

Other shows, that opt for the fly-by-the-seat-of-our-pants approach, end up jumping the shark, because they try to reach B% complexity without THINKING THROUGH THEIR PLOTS. Take the X-Files. Am I the only one that thinks that whole government-alien conspiracy MAKES NO SENSE?!

Anyway, in conclusion, B5 = cool.

"There is a hole in your mind...."

ZICSOFT

Sunday, September 8, 2002 11:02 PM

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The thing that I loved so much about B-5 was that it was a high concpet show. Unlike virtually every other show I have ever heard about, B5 was a fully formed story before the pilot was even filmed.

Hot flash -- that "fully formed story" was abandoned at the end of the first season.

OK, I can't really prove this, but it seems pretty obvious from the crude way the "new comander" story line was grafted on. Plus the lame explanation for the time-loop dialog ("not the one!") during the second appearance of Babylon 4. They obviously didn't mean to bring back B4 until the end of the series, with Garibaldi doing a Alamo-style last stand in order to buy time for whatever. That's why they had that silly bit in the final season where they blew up the station as a "hazard to navigation". Hello! Cloud of debris!

It seems obvious to me that the suits in Fox Studios intervened, saying the show was too dark (sound familiar), that they had to recast with a big-name star, and they had to give him a love interest. Of course, JMS will never admit that he abandoned his High Concept. But then, that's all there is to the man. I mean, it's not as though he knows how to write or direct or anything!

Ooh, have I offended all you die-hard B5 fans. So sorry!

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Monday, September 9, 2002 12:29 AM

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Of course, JMS will never admit that he abandoned his High Concept. But then, that's all there is to the man. I mean, it's not as though he knows how to write or direct or anything!

Ooh, have I offended all you die-hard B5 fans. So sorry!

Zic, if B5 was such a piece of shit, then why is it concidered a sci-fi classic?

Grr. Arg.

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