Finally saw the pilot

POSTED BY: WrongArturo
UPDATED: Friday, January 16, 2004 07:57
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LERXST

Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:43 AM

Some of the stars are already involved in other projects. At least 1 (Nathan) is committed to a new series. So, I'm guessing we may also have to buy out their contracts or something. Still, I'd be willing to contribute generously (well, 3 figures anyway) to the Resurrect Firefly Fund.

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Cap'n can I have money for a slinky dress?

LERXST

Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:58 AM

*Bump*

Okay, pay-per-view is what, 4 bucks per movie? Times 26, let's say an even 100 bucks. I'd be willing to pay that for a season of Firefly. Now if I could only find 199,999 other people who agree, we'd be in the mix!

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Cap'n, can I have money for a slinky dress?

KAYTHRYN

Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:11 AM

Sign me up!
Just 199,998 left...uh... almost there.

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Jayne: Hey, I didn't fight in no war. Best of luck, though.

HARDWARE

Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:40 AM

I'm in!

Come on browncoats! We only need 199,997 more donors!

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

FIREFLYGAMBIT

Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:31 PM

Well, you guys are not wide off the mark. While I believe that trying a fans-pay-per-view of about $4/episode is an interesting but doomed concept (because someone has to accept the risk of pre-financing the season), I think resurrecting firefly as a series based on fan investments is possible.

Assuming an episode of firefly costs somewhere between $250000 and $1500000 in the making, there are valid business plans that stand a good chance of returning a (probably slim, ~5%) profit (taking into account the us and foreign markets and sales of the dvd set).

While Bill Gates might not be a fan, out of the 40000 employees of Microsoft, there are probably ~200 fans of firefly who could invest sums of $10000 to $100000 without hurting.

Find about 2500 more people willing to invest $500 to $5000 and you've got 6 million US$ that could be used to finance production of at least a 12 part second season.

Assuming that the fanbase of firefly runs roughly around 2 million, if you manage to find 15000 investors with about 500 contributors in the high end category, a 22 episode season - or maybe even 2 seasons wouldn't be out of the question.

TALLGRRL

Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:08 PM

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Originally posted by migteebigbigbrotha:
(snip) Not only could you pay the stars salary but the crew and all that for at least a season. Advertisers could probably add a few more million or so to the shows fund.

This is a great idea....but do we have any idea just how much money we're talking about PER WEEK (aka per episode)to do a show like Firefly?
2 million dollars for a season?
I'm thinking it would be more like 2 million dollars PER WEEK.(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall reading somewhere that when the X-Files moved back to the U.S., the price of production was about a mill a week. And that show was effects light compared to Firefly.)
One of the reasons Fox gave for canceling the show was the high cost of an effects-heavy show like this. (Whose effects just happened to have won the show a very well deserved Emmy award.)
Advertisers pay money for a show depending on the size of the audience.
That, ladies and gents, is what TV programs are for: filler for the ads.
Unfortunately, FU...I mean FOx never gave the show a chance to have an audience, which would attracted advertisers, which would have paid for the high cost of the show.
What a gorram shame.
I'm disappointed that the Sci-Fi channel didn't jump at the chance to take Firefly. Then again, at the time they were putting a bit of coin into "Taken" and "Dune" and other very pricey and wonderful shows.

"Take me, sir. Take me hard."

ZAPHODB

Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:17 PM

Time to dust off this old list...

Genre Show Budgets
Enterprise (2001)
$5,000,000 (per episode) (Season 2-7)
$3,500,000 (per episode)
$12,000,000 (pilot episode)
Star Trek TNG (1987)
$2,500,000 (per episode) (season 3-7)
$1,500,000 (per episode)
Star Trek DS9 (1993)
$4,000,000 (per episode) (Season 4-7)
$2,000,000 (per episode)
Star Trek Voyager (1995)
$3,500,000 (per episode) (Season 4-7)
$2,200,000 (Per Episode)
Stargate SG1 (1996)
$1,400,000 (per episode)
The X-Files (1993)
$1,500,000 (per episode - Canada)
$2,500,000 (per episode - US)
$66,000,000 (movie)
Space: Above and Beyond (1995)
$5,000,000 (per episode)
Star Trek TOS (1966)
$100,000 (per episode)
Babylon Five (1994)
$750,000 (per episode)
$900,000 (per episode) (Season 4-5)
Battlestar Galactica (1978)
$750,000 (per episode)
The Outer Limits (1995)
$1,100,000 (per episode, 7th season)
Buffy (1997)
$2,300,000 (per episode, 5th season)
Angel (1999)
$2,000,000 (per episode)
Firefly (2002)
$2,000,000 (per episode)
$10,000,000 (pilot episode)
Farscape (1999)
$1,500,000 (per episode)

I researched and posted this at another forum back in September of this year. The numbers are fairly accurate.

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KURUKAMI

Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:53 PM

So, basically, yet more proof that Fox is run by cheapskate asshats.

I'm going to snag a copy of that list for my own records. Would I be correct to assume that the prices listed are adjusted for inflation? Or are those the actual, then-current costs?

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

ZAPHODB

Friday, January 16, 2004 7:57 AM

None of the budgets have been adjusted for inflation and are the costs at the time of production.

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