Firefly DVDs for the Troops Fund cracked $2000 mark.

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Originally posted by serenityuk:
What you have said does not even make any sense

Supporting TROOPS has got everything to do with the war. If you join the forces and kill people with your bullets or press that button to drop bombs you are as guilty as Bush and Blair.

Don't give me that rubbish about going around the world, your GI Joe's know exactly what they are doing when they sign up.

Giving them DVD's, i have heard it all now.
Your $2000.00 could go a long away to more worthy cause.

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"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Originally posted by serenityuk:
What you have said does not even make any sense

Supporting TROOPS has got everything to do with the war. If you join the forces and kill people with your bullets or press that button to drop bombs you are as guilty as Bush and Blair.

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Even if it is to stop even more killing, even if it is to stop a dictator from killing his own people?

You don't like the war, and well, that just makes you sane. But until you have a workable alternative, you show a blantent disregard for your own safety, (i.e. your very life) as well as the lives of the Iraqi civilians. Pacifism is a great thing, (although the particularly militant way you express it seems odd,) but there are folks out there, that for whatever reason, want you, me and the rest of the Western world dead.

You either fight them, kill them, or die. Or, in your case, hide behind those you despise and spit on, to protect and defend your life, as well as liberate an entire captive nation of people.

But the biggest problem is really with your presentation. It does make you look like a raving, angry and irrational person, someone with low crediablity. For those of us who support this war, you are one of our best allies.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Succatash wrote:

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Hey, that's not fair. It's very wrong to imply that anti-war is anti-American.

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That is not what I said at all. Read BarneyT's post below....

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I don't think that's what BrownCoat1 meant - serenityuk's comments were both anti-war and anti-American so that's the sort of board BrownCoat1 was pointing him/her to.

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Exactly what I meant. I did not think it would be interpreted any other way.

I am against war, but I think I am a little more qualified than most to have that opinion as I have been in one & seen the horrors first hand. Everyone should be anti-war, unless of course it is for a good cause. Guess what SerenityUK, freeing an oppressed people who's dictator test biochemical weapons on them, who steals money for food and medicine sent by the UN to build himself his 13th palace while they live in hovels is a damn good cause.

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Yes, because the troops are the ones who have taken it apon themselves to leave thier families, fly halfway around the world and have a little camping trip in the middle of the desert. How could I have missed that obvious conclusion.

If you want to be pissed off at someone about this war, you're anger is painfully missdirected. Get mad at Bush and company. Actually, since it sounds like you are British, you should get REALLY mad at Tony Blair, for being Bush's lapdog.

Supporting TROOPS has nothing to do with supporting the war. Grow up or go somewhere else.

- MrGreen, Army Reservist on the move to destination unknown in March.

PS Calling US troops in Iraq 'Baby Killer's' is the STUPIDIST thing I think I have ever heard. For the most part the civilian casualties are being caused by Iraqi insurgents with IEDs (improvised explosive devices) that go off when some 10 year old pokes it with a stick by accident.

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Ahmen to that MrGreen.

Supporting the troops does not mean supporting the war. Wanting your men & women in uniform to come home in one piece to the people that love & miss them is not the same as backing a war.

I was in the Special Forces & served in Desert Shield & Desert Storm. I didn't want to go, & I didn't want to leave my family. I did it because that was my duty, and my CiC said I had to go. I am sure that the men & women there now, who were in the desert sitting at Christmas time would have rather have been home w/ their families.

"Baby Killer". That is the most uneducated, idiotic thing I have ever heard spewed by a Troll. I served in Kuwait & Iraq for more than a year during the 1st Gulf War & I never saw a dead baby or child, and I sure as hell never saw any Coalition soldier shot or hurt a child.

What I did see were malnurished children, children who told us they were scared of their dictator and his troops.

If Baby Killer can be hung around anyone's neck, it is Saddam Hussein who ordered the chemical attack on the Kurds in northern Iraq.

SerenityUK wrote:

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What you have said does not even make any sense

Supporting TROOPS has got everything to do with the war. If you join the forces and kill people with your bullets or press that button to drop bombs you are as guilty as Bush and Blair.

Don't give me that rubbish about going around the world, your GI Joe's know exactly what they are doing when they sign up.

Giving them DVD's, i have heard it all now.
Your $2000.00 could go a long away to more worthy cause.

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What are you? 16 years old? Why is so bloody hard to understand that supporting the troops, trying to make their lives in a foreign land, thousands of miles from home & loved ones, is not the same as being in support of the war? Could you really be so blinded by rage against the war that you can not see the difference?

No one here has said they hope the US Troops are killing lots of Iraqis. No one here has done anything except pray for the comfort & safe return of the troops.

I suppose if we listened to you, we should have left Saddam and his insane sons in charge of Iraq. H

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