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Illegal Immigration- what to do?

POSTED BY: SignyM
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Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:12 PM

After much consideration, I've come down on the side against illegal immigation. But like "the war on terror" doesn't (in my mind) meand a "war on terrorist", fighting illegal immigration does not necessarily mean fighting illegal immigrants.

What to do?

The floor is yours.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:44 PM

Whatever we do will have to involve dialog with Mexico. Most illegal immigrants come from there, and most from other countries pass through there on their way here.

Not much can be done along this line until the election controversy there gets settled.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:50 PM

How about we let them in legally? Then they wouldn't be illegal. Hmmm. That was simple. Next problem?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:06 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
How about we let them in legally? Then they wouldn't be illegal. Hmmm. That was simple. Next problem?

Haha. I second.

I entered the country once illegally. I left the country for my honeymoon and reentered with my student visa. Turns out marriage to an American automatically invalidates all non-immigrant visas (including my student visa). The only way I could have reentered the country legally was to wait 6 months abroad while they processed my green card. I wouldn't have been able to come back to school on time. So I lied and said my husband was Canadian, and they let me in with my student visa.

Eventually my illegal entry was discovered, and I paid a fine of $90. I was legally allowed to enter as a student and a wife of an American, but I couldn't go on a honeymoon and just come back in.

I'm all for getting rid of silly, convoluted laws that artificially create crime and "illegality."

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:17 PM

Sarge- There is still the minor issue that even "legal" immigrants aren't citizens and as such have no political representation. How is that different from living in a nation ruled by a generalissimo, where you are "legal" but have no political representation? Won't that just create the same hellhole situation here?

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:36 PM

OK, so let them become citizens. An eager flow of immigrants has been the fuel source that's driven our country since it's inception. I fail to see the advantage in shutting that down.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:38 PM

I'm cool with that. What process? What requirements? How long? Really curious- please xplain.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:52 PM

I dunno. You're implying those details are important for a reason, I presume?

SergeantX

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm cool with that. What process? What requirements? How long? Really curious- please xplain.


We could go back to the old process (in effect until the 1920s IIRC).

Pass a physical.

Welcome to America.

(unless you were from China, then no way, no how).

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:14 PM

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
We could go back to the old process (in effect until the 1920s IIRC).

Pass a physical.

Welcome to America.



Unfortunately we live in a much different time now. How can all the immigrants who want to come to America be properly screened for past indiscretions? The Country's infrastructure could not possibly support the additional mass of people which could be expected. New immigrants might have to live in camps and not get access to doctors or schools. This may have been a viable option 90 years ago, but not so much today.

De-lurking to stir stuff up.

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