My Superman Returns review, all with the spoilers and such...

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, July 17, 2006 18:35
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OPPYH

Saturday, July 8, 2006 4:10 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
OOoooo, PLUS:
The new DVD collection due out the end of the year will include a new cut of Superman 2 that will add back in the excised Donner footage! SHINY!
(I'll 'lose' the DVD with Superman 4 on it though...)

Never overcook a soufle Chrisisall

The new cut of Superman 2 on dvd will give us lots to chat about. It is rumored there will be a director's cut of Superman Returns Apparently the studio wanted him to keep it under 3 hours so he had to exclude scenes. One of the scenes is actually in the Superman Returns trailer. You can see Supermans ship cruising through the valleys of a desolate Krypton.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, July 9, 2006 3:20 PM

Very cool.

Atomized Chrisisall

JAHZARA

Monday, July 10, 2006 8:37 PM

Okay. Just saw the movie on Saturday, and I'm still seething.

It wasn't a horrible movie. But us Browncoats, when it comes to character developement and moments, we got to have it.

Several things that struck me as incredibly...infuriating was:

Lois was probably DESTROYED when Superman disapeared. I mean, DEVASTATED. And I don't buy her having a one night stand with Richard White. And it would have to be right after he left, right? The main reason I find it ridiculous because RW seems to honorable to take advantage of a young girl EVERYBODY knew had it bad for Superman. He's human Clark Kent, right?

I can buy her lying to herself for five years that it was his child, okay, 'cause I know women like that. Especially not remembering she and Superman were together. But after realizing the child WASN'T HIS, it seems like she's not going to tell him. I mean, the kid even knows. It doesn't even begin to scope where this may lead. I know, sequels, but that's ridiculous.

Not that RW doesn't need to stop lying to himself about Lois. She ain't married you, after five years? Y'all have a kid? Take a clue, please. I can't help it. I feel bad for the guy. Even though he got on my nerves.

And I'm supposed to like these characters.

Including Superman who just LEFT without even telling his mother. I just think Superman's too honorable to not do the right thing. I mean, it makes him arguably one of the less dynamic superheros, but that's why we love him. Because he's not always tortured, and blah, blah, that's Batman.

Because Superman is an ideal.

Two, I was SO excited when they cast Kate Bosworth. Not that big a name, and so pretty, but when I saw those first pictures from the set, and her TERRIBLE hair, I knew there was trouble.

Three, That dumbass, throwaway line about her spelling. Unless you know Superman, and for a whole generation, they don't, it makes Lois seem stupid. My sister was like, what? She asked how many F's were in WHAT?!

Good things:

Martha Kent standing outside the hospital, not able to go in. That was some sad stuff, man. I hadn't really ever considered how lucidcrous keeping SM in a hospital would be though. Damn. Thanks y'all.

Several moments that we've know about in the previews for months. The it's a bird, it's a ....

When he takes her off the roof. She's all like, Richard takes me flying...WHAT?! Made me smile.

The opening credits. My favorite part. And that's a damn shame.

If my thoughts are a little scattered, well that's what this movie did to me.

I'm still mad.

I've got a deadbeat dad. Could he be Superman?

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:44 AM

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Three, That dumbass, throwaway line about her spelling. Unless you know Superman, and for a whole generation, they don't, it makes Lois seem stupid. My sister was like, what? She asked how many F's were in WHAT?!

Well, to be fair, Lois is more about the investigation. Clark is the one with the gift of language (at least in the comics, where he moonlights as an award-winning novelist).

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HAZE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:55 PM

Double post, sorry.

HAZE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:56 PM

I will most likely see this movie this week so I will pass judgment on it then but I have to be honest, I can't stand Superman, I always have.

Superman is essentially (like Wonder Woman who I also hate)a God lacking any real moral physical or mental weaknesses. I just can't care about a character who is THAT perfect.

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Who do you suppose is in there?

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:13 PM

Okay, to be brutally honest, if not for Superman 1 & 2, I would have foud this movie to be dull and boring. It's only strengths comes from the nostalga it invokes and the pretty pretty look of it.
I personally could have written a better story, and directed a better film.
But since I ain't doin' it, I'll enjoy what we got. And hope for more.

A lot of stuff flies (excuse pun) in the comics, but Superman in the movies should focus on inner turmoil; his powers make external conflict predictable. I mean, after you take on Zod, and nearly destroy the Earth, where do you go from there, Big Bad-wise?

Joss will set the standard with Wonder Woman (Character, dialogue, stuff like that), and hopefully the next Superman movie will follow it's lead...

This is no fantasy Chrisisall

J6NGO1977

Friday, July 14, 2006 10:39 PM

I like the review dude. I haven't seen it yet but I don't mind the spoilers :) I know the history of Superman. I am looking forward to seeing it. I have a Superman fan friend and he said it is the best Superman ever, even better that Chris Reeve

What we need to see next is a Superman and Batman team-up movie. I have some Superman/Batman team up comics and they are cool. Batman gets fed up of Superman because Superman rushes into trouble with super baddies head first and Batman takes a beating.

OPPYH

Saturday, July 15, 2006 6:20 AM

It's official,(by my observations)Superman Returns is the most debated Super hero movie I have ever witnessed. People I know who have seen it: co-workers, comic shop locals, and friends split it right down the middle 50/50. Those who hate it, really, really hated it, and those who don't can see no wrong. Granted there were a few who watched it and thought it was OK, but man you get a room of comic book fanboys in a converstaion about it, and look out. Logic, and good clean discussion is out the window. I had the guts to say I liked it better than Batman Begins, and nearly lost my life. If the haters had guns, I'd be in a pine box about now pushing up daisies.
Seriously though, this is a great thing. I haven't had such heated, passionate discussions with my peers since Star Wars Episode 1.

One very interesting point that brought up in the debate...I mean conversation. Superman 1, and 2 are classic. No superman movie can compare because they were just so damn good, and I agree.
I think the main reason I liked Supe Returns so much is because Singer didn't try to re-invent Superman. He didn't break the tradition of the previous films, instead he built on it, and for a filmaker to do that is a great gesture and also shows his love for the originals.

DC/Warner Brothers has a pretty good track record so far. Can't wait for Wonder Woman.

"Gee that's funny, I've never seen garbage eat garbage before"

CHRISISALL

Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:13 PM

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I had the guts to say I liked it better than Batman Begins, and nearly lost my life.

Been there, faced that!

Chrisisall

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