Another reason why Fox sucks
POSTED BY: SpaceAngler
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 02:41
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Originally posted by VinceHolz:
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With Universal buying the rights to the show, at least as far as movie rights go, I would like to see it on Sci Fi. More Sci Fi fans would have a chance to see it there, and it would be a better fit in keeping with the line of programming.
As much as one may think Sci Fi would be a good home for Firefly, I'd say I'm glad they passed on the show.
Just look at their recent treatment of great space sci-fi shows. As stated in an artical on B5TV.com, Sci Fi seems to be distancing itself from any and all space bound science fiction. The cancelation of Farscape dispite superior ratings, the fact they had J. Michael Straczyski (sp) on board to do a new B5 spin-off series and let it dwindle into the void, and their total support of landbased sci-fi like Stargate and X-Files, all signs that the Sci-fi channel is no longer what it once was.
And I'm sure that if they did pick up the rights to Firefly, they'd only mistreat and abuse it, much like Fox has.
And as a fan of Serenity and her crew, I'd rather that not happen.
And I've gone off on quite the rant now ^.^;; What a way to join the forum...
Don't know if I agree w/ you on all the points.
Never was a big fan of Farscape, so I won't comment on that one. I was disappointed to see B5 go, but they still run it in syndication on Sci Fi. I was kind of disappointed that they never did anything w/ B5: Legend of the Rangers after the pilot, and that B5: Crusade only turned out to be a mini series.
I would not say that Sci Fi is shying away from space based sci fi. Look at the new Battlestar Galactica that they released in December. They dumped a lot of time, money & effort into that one, & it based in space. They advertised the heck out of that mini series too. I would say that is proof enough they are not adverse to space based programs.
Could it be that they have not found programs or concepts that fit into the current execs profile of shows? I don't have the figures on Farscape's ratings, production costs, or know any of the behind the scene goings ons that may have caused the show to end. I do know that B5 had run for awhile and they wanted to call it quits.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Granted, yes, they put a lot of effort into the Battlestar Mini..
but their commitment to it has yet to be determined, as according to Cinescape it's up for a 12 episode series. (Which I personally would love to see, because the Mini left far too many unanswered questions) If they sign it for a season, then it's possible there may be hope left.
But if they let this too dwindle away, I may take the advice of many 'Scapers and stop watching Sci Fi all together. I rarely watch it now as all they run are Horror Movies, Stargate, and X-Files.
Okay perhaps that's unfair, they do run some decent shows in the mid-day. But I personally would rather watch reruns of seaQuest and First Wave then The Sentinel and Crossing Over.
There is also hope because, if I'm not mistaken, Sci Fi recently changed ownership, or rather, it's parent company did. And hopefully they'll opt to bring back more Sci-fi and less other stuff.
Only time will tell.
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Originally posted by VinceHolz:
Granted, yes, they put a lot of effort into the Battlestar Mini..
but their commitment to it has yet to be determined, as according to Cinescape it's up for a 12 episode series. (Which I personally would love to see, because the Mini left far too many unanswered questions) If they sign it for a season, then it's possible there may be hope left.
But if they let this too dwindle away, I may take the advice of many 'Scapers and stop watching Sci Fi all together. I rarely watch it now as all they run are Horror Movies, Stargate, and X-Files.
Okay perhaps that's unfair, they do run some decent shows in the mid-day. But I personally would rather watch reruns of seaQuest and First Wave then The Sentinel and Crossing Over.
There is also hope because, if I'm not mistaken, Sci Fi recently changed ownership, or rather, it's parent company did. And hopefully they'll opt to bring back more Sci-fi and less other stuff.
Only time will tell.
If they have signed on for 12 episodes, it sounds as if they mean to pick it up in the summer when everyone else is running reruns. Would help to boost ratings, but that is awhile to wait for the show to debut as a series. Of course if it is only 12 episodes, they could tack the mini series on at the beginning to refresh the audience on it and fill more time.
Of course they may mean it to come in during spring. Stargate SG1 ends in the spring, so they may put it in that slot. Seems unlikely, but it is possible.
I don't care much for daytime programming, but I am at work during the day so I guess it is not that important, as it is pretty much filler anyway.
If I remember correctly, Universal (who owns Sci Fi) just partnered w/ NBC. Maybe we will see a revitalization of true Sci Fi on the channel.
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Has anyone ever mentioned HBO, did they try them for the series? I was watching the other night and HBO has a new series coming out that is a western! It looks expensive and interesting. It seems that HBO would be perfect, they can handle an expensive series (they would probably only have like 12-15 episodes (instead of usual 22 for network tv), they could say and show whatever they like (paytv!) and if anyone has noticed lately, they have some great executives over there, look at their choices in shows: they pretty much rule at the emmys nowadays.
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Not one to blow my own horn, but my wife if far hotter than Paris Hilton, and I don't need to watch internet porn for my fix. LOL
I guess that does it for some guys, but I would think they could find a hotter woman to drool over.
What is, and is not hot, is again a matter of taste. Some guys, the fact the gal is doing the deed in the first place, scores her hottie points. The fact that she allowed herself to be taped doing it, well that is more hottie points.
And it makes sense, if you think about it. Its all about the big O after all.
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Originally posted by mrgreen:
FOX is stupid, but seems that alot of people are just as stupid.
Is there any way we can get off this kick of insulting the potential audience? I see this as self destructive.
You tell me you think I'm stupid for liking something you don't, no matter what the reason is, or how justified you feel, that's it. I ain't gonna listen to you any more. You tell me this other show is great, so what, you also told me I was stupid, and you were wrong about that, and rude to boot. So why believe you about this new show.
What it will do is create a loss of credibility, and the appearance of a kind of snobbishness. It will ensure that Firefly remains a cult show, and never break into mainstream, (who wants to associate with such rude fanatics) Which means no finanical backing for a new series, as it will drive people AWAY, because they will think we are all fanatical snobs.
Look, I think Firefly is better than Star Trek TOS. But I realize that in art in television there is no objective standard, and hense no truth as to what is good or bad. Without truth, terms like "stupid" become nothing but personal opinions, insulting self destructive ones at that. The closest thing there is, is ratings, how many folks watch the program.
And I also know that Firefly sells itself. Its not that people are stupid, so much as most folks did not even know it was on, and never saw it. Let them watch a couple episodes of the DVD, and they are hooked.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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Originally posted by SpaceAngler:
I just wanted to point out to everyone that the DVD for Fox's Paris Hilton-based reality show "The Simple Life" will be out TWO DAYS after the season ends. And we had to wait nearly a year. Those bastards.
ARGGGGGG!!!
Fox Network! :ARRGGGGG!!!They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....
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Originally posted by Drakon:
Is there any way we can get off this kick of insulting the potential audience? I see this as self destructive.
You tell me you think I'm stupid for liking something you don't, no matter what the reason is, or how justified you feel, that's it. I ain't gonna listen to you any more. You tell me this other show is great, so what, you also told me I was stupid, and you were wrong about that, and rude to boot. So why believe you about this new show.
What it will do is create a loss of credibility, and the appearance of a kind of snobbishness. It will ensure that Firefly remains a cult show, and never break into mainstream, (who wants to associate with such rude fanatics) Which means no finanical backing for a new series, as it will drive people AWAY, because they will think we are all fanatical snobs.
Look, I think Firefly is better than Star Trek TOS. But I realize that in art in television there is no objective standard, and hense no truth as to what is good or bad. Without truth, terms like "stupid" become nothing but personal opinions, insulting self destructive ones at that. The closest thing there is, is ratings, how many folks watch the program.
And I also know that Firefly sells itself. Its not that people are stupid, so much as most folks did not even know it was on, and never saw it. Let them watch a couple episodes of the DVD, and they are hooked.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
I just have one point about your whole argument. If we're going to talk about "art", then comparing "Firefly" to "The Simple Life (or any other reality show for that matter) is like comparing the "Mona Lisa" to a developmentally-disabled patient urinating on a canvas and then smearing his face in it. Admittedly, a rather vile, revolting comparison, but then again, "Reality TV" is vile and revolting, and it contributes to the increasing amount of acceptable stupidity on the loose.
Now, I have no qualms about letting that DFM programming on the air. First Amendment and all that. My problem is that quality programming not only gets cancelled but actively squelched, so that DFM programming can take it's place.
They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....
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Well I gave up watching anything on the Fox Network, There is just way to much crap coming from that network.
Reality TV.... my Ass
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