Here there be pirates...

POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Monday, July 10, 2006 00:10
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DEEPGIRL187

Saturday, July 8, 2006 9:10 PM

I just saw the second Pirates Of The Carribean today (amazing film, I highly reccommend it). While I was watching Johnny Depp's wonderful performance, I noticed something. Jack Sparrow is a lot like the captain. Mind you, Jack has a lot less scruples than our captain, but he's still basically a decent human being (kind of).

But what I really noticed was how they both relate to their ships. To them, their ships are a part of them, a part that would hurt to lose. The importance they place on their ships is not something others can always understand, and is often something that gets them into trouble. But still they remain devoted to their respective homes.

Anyway, just a random observation.

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"I...won't be just a memory."

NCBROWNCOAT

Saturday, July 8, 2006 10:04 PM

Hopefully going to see the movie tomorrow. I can't wait and I'll be looking for comparisons.

I live right in the middle of pirate country so I can't wait for the movie. Blackbeard lived in Bath, NC in the 1700's, about 20 miles from my house, for seveal years. His flagship, the "Queen Anne's Revenge" was found in the inlet near Beaufort, NC several years ago.

A lot of artifacts have been brought to the surface and are in a museum in Beaufort, NC. That's where they had the tall ships last week. So there be pirates here too. Maybe that's why I like Firefly so much?

SAMEERTIA

Sunday, July 9, 2006 2:51 AM

I want a Will Turner.
Can I have one, please?
My name IS Elizabeth, after all!

FLORALBUNNY

Sunday, July 9, 2006 4:09 AM

deepgirl187 wrote (in part):
But what I really noticed was how they both relate to their ships. To them, their ships are a part of them, a part that would hurt to lose. The importance they place on their ships is not something others can always understand, and is often something that gets them into trouble. But still they remain devoted to their respective homes.
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I was watching my PotC1 DVD one day right after
getting a Firefly fix, thinking how much I like
both my Captains. I took this down:

"It's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and
sails -- that's what a ship *needs* -- but what
a ship *is* -- what the Black Pearl really *is*
-- is freedom.

It goes right along with Mal telling Zoe "Won't
ever have to be under the heel of nobody ever
again." (Hope I haven't hashed that line)

Hard to wait to see PotC2, now that it's out!

bun
~2006~Firefly Summer~2006~
------Hide the rum!------

ANONYMOUS1

Sunday, July 9, 2006 6:56 AM

One of the crew says Shiny.

And then Captain Jack says Shiny.

And something with the word Hold in the movie. But I can't remember what.

ANONYMOUS1

Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
I was watching my PotC1 DVD one day right after
getting a Firefly fix, thinking how much I like
both my Captains. I took this down:

"It's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and
sails -- that's what a ship *needs* -- but what
a ship *is* -- what the Black Pearl really *is*
-- is freedom.

It goes right along with Mal telling Zoe "Won't
ever have to be under the heel of nobody ever
again." (Hope I haven't hashed that line)

Out of Gas

Mal: "And try to see past what she is and on
to what she can be."

Zoe: What's that, Sir?

Mal: Freedom is what.

...

Mal: "And never have to be under the heel
of nobody ever again."

SHINYYUKARI

Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous1:
One of the crew says Shiny.

And then Captain Jack says Shiny.

And something with the word Hold in the movie. But I can't remember what.

They were talking about Shiny rewards and honest payment! I loved that part!

And Captain Jack and Captain Reynolds are alot alike. I could see them having a battle of wits and snark in some freaky universe.

"Well next time you be the bait!"~Andy Hurley
"Okay! Everybody not talking about sex, in here. Everybody else, elsewhere."~Wash
Browncoats are the coolest fans I've ever seen.

BELOWZERO

Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
Hopefully going to see the movie tomorrow. I can't wait and I'll be looking for comparisons.

I live right in the middle of pirate country so I can't wait for the movie. Blackbeard lived in Bath, NC in the 1700's, about 20 miles from my house, for seveal years. His flagship, the "Queen Anne's Revenge" was found in the inlet near Beaufort, NC several years ago.

A lot of artifacts have been brought to the surface and are in a museum in Beaufort, NC. That's where they had the tall ships last week. So there be pirates here too. Maybe that's why I like Firefly so much?

Is there a website for the ship and the artifacts for those of us who like pirates but live waaaaaay up North? I'd love to check that out!
Thanks!

"Do not go gentle into that good night....
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. . ."
--Dylan Thomas

Though my soul may set in darkness
It will rise in perfect light.
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night.

ZOID

Sunday, July 9, 2006 9:49 AM

Howdy, folks...

As ShinyYukari and Anonymous1 both pointed out, the segment of dialogue regarding a "reward for honest piratin'" (treasure) that's hopefully "shiny" for a change, rather than what this Browncoat presumes has been a longish string of 'bobblehead capers' for the crew of The Pearl: I was gonna say it sounded an awful lot like an intentional SereniFly reference to me. As did the British West India Company (read: 'Blue Sun') man's assertion that the world was shrinking, and that there would soon be no place in it for naughty men like Jack Sparrow to slip about at all... Hell, we even got a glimpse (unintentional parallel, I'm sure, but still fun) of Reaver tribal life!
(NB: I hope that dog doesn't become a 'good dog', wot?)

I, too, immensely enjoyed PotC:DMC; although I must admit I ain't keen on 'To be continued...' endings.

Saw it at a jammed drive-in (perfect night for it, btw) along with "Cars" (thinly veiled -- but nevertheless excellently done -- remake of "Doc Hollywood") and "Nacho Libre" (chock full of Jack Black-y comedic goodness, tho' very bizarre). My son and I had a great time.

Buccaneerishly,

zoid

P.S.
Of the whole night's worth of films, me and the boy can't get past the line from Nacho's song just before his big fight with the wrestling champion, in which he sings of his days (upwards of two of them) wandering alone in the 'wilderness' (a stone's throw from town): "...I ate some bugs, I ate some grass, I used my hand to wipe my tears...". It was so cool being able to explain the concepts of subtlety and misdirection to my son, from a film of this stripe. The fact that my soon-to-be 13 year old boy got the joke as soon as it came out of Black's mouth, though, indicates to me that perhaps 'the lowest common denominator' might be raised a little in Hollywood. People are perhaps a bit quicker on the uptake than movie makers are generally giving them credit for...

P.P.S.
Best film of the night? Hard to say, since they were an eclectic, mixed-genre group of movies. But I will say that there wasn't a clinker in the bunch, and isn't that a 'once in a blue moon' these days?
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

IAMJACKSUSERNAME

Sunday, July 9, 2006 10:37 AM

Quote:
Pirate Captain Bellamy:
damn ye [and] all those who will submit to be governed by Laws which rich Men have made for their own Security, for the cowardly Whelps have not the Courage otherwise to defend what they get by their Knavery; but damn ye altogether: Damn them [...] and you, who serve them [...] They villify us, the Scoundrels do, when there is only this Difference, they rob the Poor under the Cover of Law, [indeed], and we plunder the Rich under the Protection of our own Courage; had you not better make One of us, than sneak after the Arses of those Villains for Employment?

- Peter Lamborn Wilson's "T.A.Z.: the temporary autonomous zone, ontological anarchy, poetic terrorism"

- "Pirate Utopias" http://www.eco-action.org/dod/no8/pirate.html
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I am Steve's username
"stealing from the rich, selling to the poor" - Wash

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