Poll: How many Muslims want to destroy the USA?

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COPTERDOC

Sunday, July 2, 2006 1:04 AM

Not trying to correct anybody. Just explaining what I was talking about. This middle east VS. west thing has been brewing for hundreds of years. We could sit around and debate it for days. Their hatered for us comes from seeds that were planted during the crusades and even before. The western world has always flexed its muscles over them, from those days, through the british colonial days, through today. The USA just happens to be the leader of the western world when they were able to strike back somewhat. Not trying to sound un-american, because I am not. I served my country proudly as a marine for a few years. I just don't think most people really understand how deep seated their anger is.

"I do, but I like to hear you say it"

"They ain't all cute and cuddly like me"

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, July 2, 2006 1:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by copterdoc:
Not all muslims are terrorists,

But,

So far all the terrorists have been muslims.

I was unaware Willian Krar was a Muslim, musta make his Klan membership a little on the shaky side, eh ?

But no, it's all A-OK when racist, rightwing extremists wanna use terror weapons, right ?

Truth is, since whoever *was* on the planes on 9-11 used phony identification, and subsequently a couple of the accused have been found elsewhere alive and well... we do not know.

We may NEVER know, who exactly, was on those planes, but it's not like it matters, cause they're dead.

Assholes abound in every belief system, one has naught to do with the other.

-Frem

GINOBIFFARONI

Sunday, July 2, 2006 2:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by canttakesky:
I hear this a lot: "There are hordes of Islamic crazies who hate America and want to see us destroyed. We need to exterminate their brown asses before they exterminate us."

I really, really want to know how many actually believe this, and if not, what do they believe?

a. How many Islamic crazies bent on terrorizing us do YOU think there are? Who do you think they are?

Millions, hundreds of thousands, thousands, hundreds, less than a hundred, a couple dozen....??

b. What source of information do you say most influenced you to believe what you believe?

TV, newspapers, books, internet, the Bible, your political party, personal travels, ...?

Thanks.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

I would say your question needs to be refined a little....

There is how many want to, and how many simply wish it to happen, and for that matter how many non-muslims feel the same way.

The next question is why

The answer depends on where in the world you are from,

The Muslim view holds the west in general to account for actions going way back in history, but for the purpose of this thread I will only go back to WW1. In order to draw allies to fight the turks in the Middle East, the British promised amongst other things self rule, etc. After the war, the discovery of oil caused the Arabs to be screwed...
Borders were drawn without reguard to the local and the " empires " of the day split up the spoils. This led to several revolts against the British and French, and these were put down with little mercy, one revolt had the British ( under orders from Winston Churchill when he was a minister ) to use chemical weapons to take down a Kurdish uprising in Iraq... Funny today the are taking Saddam to trial for the same thing ?

This led to a series of dictators bankrolled and supported by outside powers using whatever means to keep power, the US in recent decades has done this all over the world.

Look at Cuba for example, look at what the US has against Castro... but then look at what their man Batista did while in power ? Think about it from the pespective of someone living in Cuba ?

then do the same for Argentina, or Chile, or El Salvador, or Egypt, or Saudi Arabia, or so on and so on.

I could go on, but I hope you see my point...

So

a. How many are bent on terrorizing the US ?

How many has the US terrorized the past fifty years ? Take that number and multiply by three

b. What source of information

TV, News, Internet, personal travel and talking to people who lived through some of what I talked about.

" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

CHRISISALL

Sunday, July 2, 2006 3:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
Our government and the media made more out of a few thousand fanatics. Add 9-11 plus our actions after that into the mix and to the average American it looks like the whole Muslim world is out to get us, which is the image that the current US administration wanted in the first place to further their own agenda.

So speaks the high and mighty.
Wanna run for President now, ShadowBEE?

Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, July 2, 2006 3:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

How many has the US terrorized the past fifty years ?

Applicable quote:
"We do not kill, Mr. Brent. We get our enemies to kill each other."

Chrisisall

GINOBIFFARONI

Sunday, July 2, 2006 3:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

How many has the US terrorized the past fifty years ?
Applicable quote:
"We do not kill, Mr. Brent. We get our enemies to kill each other."

Chrisisall

Here is a few more quotes

History is a set of lies agreed upon.
Napoleon Bonaparte

Do not needlessly endanger your lives until I give you the signal.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.
Adolf Hitler

Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government.
Thomas Jefferson

The executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.
James Madison

Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure.
Abraham Lincoln

" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

SIGNYM

Sunday, July 2, 2006 5:45 AM

I don't kid myself into thinking that very few people hate us. LOTS of people all over the world hate us. And I don't mean moderately hate us, I mean really hate us. A teacher who happened to be in China said that what he thought were his Chinese friends and colleagues stood up and cheered when the WTC towers fell. A lot of poor in South and Central America hate us. Ditto Africa. And the Mideast. Right now, with Israel just having invaded the Gaza, I would imagine the overwhelming majority of the Palestinians spit at our name. If there were to be another successful terrorist attack on USA, they would be deliriously happy. But out of those hundred of millions of people who hate us, there are probably several tens of thousands who will actually do something about it.

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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

GINOBIFFARONI

Sunday, July 2, 2006 6:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
I don't kid myself into thinking that very few people hate us. LOTS of people all over the world hate us. And I don't mean moderately hate us, I mean really hate us. A teacher who happened to be in China said that what he thought were his Chinese friends and colleagues stood up and cheered when the WTC towers fell. A lot of poor in South and Central America hate us. Ditto Africa. And the Mideast. Right now, with Israel just having invaded the Gaza, I would imagine the overwhelming majority of the Palestinians spit at our name. If there were to be another successful terrorist attack on USA, they would be deliriously happy. But out of those hundred of millions of people who hate us, there are probably several tens of thousands who will actually do something about it.

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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

What I have a hard time understanding is the why behind the policys which cause such ill will...

I can see the masses blindly following in a patriotic frenzy... but can someone who rises to lead such a powerful country... and there has been some very intellegent ones... be so short sighted

The end result of 911, Afganistan and Iraq...

out of those hundred of millions you speak of ...
they now have some hope of causing you serious harm

and many of them have your troops close at hand to shoot at....

You lost prestige when you were attacked

Since then your leaders have sold your credibility

Treasure and Lives thrown away on a daily basis

It seems the number who wish you harm grow a little everytime your country try to insert itself globally

And the number who would do something about increases with any direct interaction with these efforts

I'd say Bin Laden has read some Sun Tzu

" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

RUE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 10:33 AM

Do not needlessly endanger your lives until I give you the signal.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

That was funny! It's like a speech given by Zedillo (to paraphrase) - last year Mexico stood on the edge of a precipice, but I am happy to say we've taken a great step forward.

CITIZEN

Sunday, July 2, 2006 11:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by copterdoc:
Not all muslims are terrorists,

But,

So far all the terrorists have been muslims.

Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
I didn't realize Timothy McVeigh was muslim.

Nor the US funded IRA (just pointing out that terrorism isn't something that started after 9/11).

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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