Firefly premiere review (poor - with near total spoilage)

POSTED BY: Hjermsted
UPDATED: Friday, August 23, 2002 04:23
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ZICSOFT

Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:23 AM

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If you do want to look at his Tara essays here's a link to one http://www.xtreme-gaming.com/theotherside/themessage.html - which contains links to the other.

Oh, that guy. He was who I had in mind with "nothing to say at great length".

SHUGGIE

Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:21 PM

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Oh, that guy. He was who I had in mind with "nothing to say at great length".

I usually manage almost nothing at fairly great length myself

Shug

NOVAGRASS

Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:57 PM

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If you do want to look at his Tara essays here's a link to one http://www.xtreme-gaming.com/theotherside/themessage.html - which contains links to the other.
Oh, that guy. He was who I had in mind with "nothing to say at great length".

The guy's a moron. Here he is saying that he's not trying to force Whedon to change his story, and then he's saying that mystical muses gave Whedon a gift and that he should have changed his story to accomodate said gift.

"But Tara wasn't just any character. There was much more of an emotional investment in her. There was much more of a social investment in her. Tara wasn't just a recurring character fulfilling her destiny of dying as a plot device. She had grown into much more, and Mutant Enemy knew it. But instead of looking at Tara's significance in the light of social responsibility, Mutant Enemy saw nothing but a means to their own ends."

Social responsibibility, nothing. Storytellers do not have any sort of obligation to society. If that were so, we would never have seen the Uhura/Kirk kiss, we would never have seen "Will and Grace," and we certainly wouldn't have seen Willow/Tara because these things slap society in the face and show it the wrongs of its ways. If storytellers had a social responsibility, there would be no innovation, no progress on television, let alone other forms of creative media.

--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--

GUANTES

Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:11 PM

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The guy's a moron.

I quote you now since I can't say it any better myself! I actually took the time to bother to read his article, since I had blanked it for the sake of not wanting to hear his pointless reminicing about characters lost, but hey I was bored.

Now I'm not good with accents (bear with me here) and in fact I was talking to Haken the other day about just this subject.... but have you read his bit on Badger?

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Their business contact is an unshaven guy who wears an old-fashioned suit and a bowler and speaks with some sort of accent - Australian, perhaps. I'm not sure.

No even I know that is not an Australian accent! Okay points for admitting he's not sure, but still!

Anyway his whole review is dismissive as well and if you are looking for an accurate account without the obviously hostile tone, this is not the place! He hasn't really given Firefly a chance since you can see by the review that he hasn't paid enough attention to pick up on what is going on and what the characters are really like.

In short the guy has given this zero time, but only seen it as a way of getting at Joss. Even though I doubt it has come close to succeeding at that.

Sigh.... Rant over nothing to see here!

Phil
"I'm not ashamed. It's the computer age. Nerds are in. They're still in, right?" -Willow

HAKEN

Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:22 PM

For the record, Mark Sheppard was born in the UK. I assume his accent is most likely English. You can ask him yourself by submitting an interview question.

GUANTES

Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:25 PM

It is its a Cockney London accent.

Phil

ZICSOFT

Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Oh, that guy. He was who I had in mind with "nothing to say at great length".

I usually manage almost nothing at fairly great length myself

Shug

Well, then be careful with posts like that. Much too concise and to the point! You have a reputation to maintain!

JERRY

Friday, August 23, 2002 4:23 AM

Mr Black is pretty much the Minister of Propaganda for the Kitten Board, and IMO his review really has no merit outside of that context. His review of Hamlet would be "Shakespeare kills beloved character".

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