Frack or Rut

POSTED BY: Sneck
UPDATED: Sunday, July 2, 2006 03:05
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SNECK

Saturday, July 1, 2006 1:32 PM

Hi all

I am a relatively new Firefly fan, pulled in by the "Serenity" film - most excellent.

Does anybody else get this cringing feeling every time somebody on Galactica says "frack" ?

Aaaargh !

Yet, I feel Rut and Goram as used on Firefly is a more "fan friendly" (and network friendly) form of cursing, and you still know exactly how pissed off they are !

Thoughts anyone ?

Sneck

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 1, 2006 2:18 PM

Oh, I don't know about that. I haven't watched the show (yet) but if you look at word meanings, "frack" actually is a little friendlier. It's an altered version of the f word we all know and love, but doesn't have any meaning except that. It's not an actual word. "Rut" or "rutting" literally means "An annually recurring condition or period of sexual excitement and reproductive activity in male deer." OR "A condition or period of mammalian sexual activity, such as estrus." So it has an actual sexual meaning, whereas "frack" much like "gorram" is just an altered swearword and can mean basically whatever you want it to.
I think "feck" would be a little easier to say, but that's alright...

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EMBERS

Saturday, July 1, 2006 2:27 PM

Personally I liked 'Farscape's "frelling"

but I agree that alternative swearing and cursing works really well, after all in another 500 years it only makes sense that these words would 'evolve'.

Now I'm curious about the word 'sly'

In 'Safe' Kaylee says Simon is so 'sly' but clearly she means handsome, charming, attractive (something good that she wants)

But in 'Heart of Gold' 'Sly' means Gay....
Of course it is probably that Joss means that saying something is Gay is a compliment in the future.

Did anyone else notice that?

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PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 1, 2006 2:34 PM

Kaylee says Simon is "swai" in Safe, which is Chinese for "handsome" or "dashing" or, in that context, "cute".

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CAUSAL

Saturday, July 1, 2006 2:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sneck:
Does anybody else get this cringing feeling every time somebody on Galactica says "frack" ?

Yup.

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DARKJESTER

Saturday, July 1, 2006 2:45 PM

I don't mind the occasional "frak". They did use it in the original series too. But when Callie called someone a "motherfraker", that was just that little step over the enjoyable line and into the cringe zone for me.

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CYBERSNARK

Saturday, July 1, 2006 3:05 PM

I'll use frack or frell by itself; rut only sounds right when as part of ruttin' (with the dropped g, "rutting" sounds dorky, like something Simon would say). 'Course, with my pronounciation, it tends to sound more like "Rudden," which is a family name around Cornwall, so it's not really a valid curse.

Also, I can't really make the "r" sound come out sharply, which is half the point of swearing.

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EMBERS

Saturday, July 1, 2006 4:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Kaylee says Simon is "swai" in Safe, which is Chinese for "handsome" or "dashing" or, in that context, "cute".

Oh (Emily Litella moment)...never mind.

really, thanks, I've been confused about that!

CITIZEN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 4:23 PM

I think ruttin' swearing is Frackin' disgraceful. Only people with gorram small vocabularies frellin' swear...

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Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:17 PM

Definitely Rut... I cant stand Frack!! Whenever they say it my husband shoots me a look that says "don't you dare laugh!" But you never know it might grow on me just like Starbuck. I couldn't stand her in the pilot episode of BSG but now shes decent at the least.

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