Poll: How many Muslims want to destroy the USA?
POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 5, 2025 17:21
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Not by said "Islamic terrorists," who did not have the resources at the time to complete such a task.
I thought that came from our gas pumps.
I believe there are few Islamic extremists but their numbers increase as do the Christian extremists here. I believe there is a portion in Iraq that are generally happy Saddam is gone. I am sure some of these 'tudes have changed. There are a few others that absolutely love us for our money and like to build artificial islands with it. Some have and still view the US as the land of opportunity. Some just live their lives and don't care. Some prolly do look at us with disgust if they realize our affluence.
...and Didn't SF come into this forum around the time when some other nut job claimed Citizen was a nazi supporter because he happened to know a lot about their American history during WWII. He seems extremely sensitive about race. Wonder if he can tell us why?
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Quote:I want to know how many people support SOMEBODY's genocidal appetite.
Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
Why? You want to see how many people support your genocidal appetite?
For those people who aren't extreme enough to be genocidal, I would like to know how they DO view the threat that our govt tells us we're facing.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
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Here's an interesting piece on the ideology of Al Qaeda.
http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/al-queda%20evolve.htm
"Following a period of exile in Sudan and Afghanistan in which his radical views sharpened, Bin Laden issued a declaration of jihad against the United States in 1996 that signaled his emergence as an internationally recognizable figure and offered a full account of his main critiques of an enemy he described as the "alliance of Jews, Christians, and their agents."
So I'd guess you could say Al Qaeda wants to destroy the United States.
Al Qaeda strength estimates vary, but several thousand looks like a consensus range.
There's also AQ affiliated organizations, who are almost impossible to size. Don't forget that the Taliban and non-Al Qaeda Iraqi insurgents would probbly also like a crack at the continental US if they could do so.
Then there's the whole bunch of folks who wouldn't take an active role in an attack, but who would be pleased with another 9/11. Note that this group is not limited to Muslims. Probably tens of millions.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:What're you trying to imply :shifty eyes:
Originally posted by pdcharles:
...and Didn't SF come into this forum around the time when some other nut job claimed Citizen was a nazi supporter because he happened to know a lot about their American history during WWII. He seems extremely sensitive about race. Wonder if he can tell us why?
I know the names of a couple of Nazi organisations within the US, and that general public sentiment as well as these extremists was the impetus behind the US not joining the war until after Pearl Harbour. Not really a great deal.
As for the race thing, not particularly, in this thread SF was calling CTS a racist genocidal maniac, I turned it around. Most of its down to the current growing attitude to Muslims, I've worked with a few and they aren't all suicidal terrorists, and when certain people on these forums say they are it pisses me off.
It pisses me off because they haven't even met a single Muslim, but feel they know what each one thinks like they're some sort of evil gestalt entity. It pisses me off because the propaganda is eerily similar to the early Nazi propaganda against Jews, as is the reaction of the public at large. It pisses me off because we, as a species, can't seem to learn from our own terrible mistakes even when those mistakes are fresh in our minds and we're still feeling the fallout.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:Hey CTS, I'm sorry I forgot, haven't heard from you in a while (or I haven't really been overly diligent about reading these threads for a while).
Originally posted by canttakesky:
*who, btw, is a gal.*
Edit: My position is largely based on having lived in Iran and traveled in the Middle East. I also take into account tidbits of facts I read on the internet that don't jive with the official story.
One important point I keep reminding myself to bring up (thanks for reminding me) is that the architects of the GWOT (for the senior citizens on board, that's "Global War on Terror") want us to equate "hate" with "membership in a terrorist cell." How many peopl hate Bush in this country and yet how many of those people are actually planning Terrorist strikes against him? Some of my best friends hate George Bush and not a one of them has such dreams, let alone the infrastructure to carry out paramilitary strikes against Dubya.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Originally posted by citizen:
What're you trying to imply :shifty eyes:
Sorry, the "HE" was referring to ShadowFly...
I can only agree with your sentiment.
I currently work with a Muslim, though he seems to become more and more agnostic, he surely is no terrorist.
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Quote:Excellent and critical distinction.
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
the architects of the GWOT (for the senior citizens on board, that's "Global War on Terror") want us to equate "hate" with "membership in a terrorist cell."
And no problem on forgetting my gender. I HAVE been gone for a while. I'm living in Peru now, and just got internet in my home after 6 months, so I'm back. It is always good to hear from you anyway. You are the light of our threads, always with your eloquent insights. (Gorram it, I am starting to sound like a Bible-thumpin' nut.)
Anyway, back on topic, here is another important distinction. Most people in other countries don't equate Americans with the American government. In my travels, I haven't even seen that many folks who hate us. I was in Egypt just last year. Did everyone I meet hate Bush? Hell, yes. Did they hate Americans? Nah. See, they aren't under the delusion that we actually have any say in what our govt does, so how could they blame us, anymore than they can blame themselves for their own govt's actions?
Many, many ordinary folks in the Arab world directly or indirectly depend on the US economy for their livelihoods. They know if we fall, they fall. Our destruction means no more oil money, no more tourist dollars, no more foreign aid. Would they be happy to see our arrogance brought down a notch? You bet. Would they be happy to see us dead, or even be instrumental in killing us? They are normal people who get sickened by carnage, just like everybody else. That is what our govt is trying to get us to forget.
Citizen is right. All this propaganda smacks of the demonization of Jews during Nazi Germany.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
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Originally posted by pdcharles:Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
What're you trying to imply :shifty eyes:
Sorry, the "HE" was referring to ShadowFly...
I can only agree with your sentiment.
I currently work with a Muslim, though he seems to become more and more agnostic, he surely is no terrorist.
That's right, bow down and kiss his arse to be included.
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Quote:Yes, as we all know in order to be an individual you have to act and think in the way rubber stamped by ShadowFly6914
Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
That's right, bow down and kiss his arse to be included.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Originally posted by canttakesky:Quote:I want to know how many people support SOMEBODY's genocidal appetite.
Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
Why? You want to see how many people support your genocidal appetite?
For those people who aren't extreme enough to be genocidal, I would like to know how they DO view the threat that our govt tells us we're facing.
You're scrambling to find people who support your facist outlook. It's fine by me if you want to sit in your garage, cleaning your guns and hoping for the next, great crusade. Starting a "Stand up and be Counted" thread just to quell your insecurities. You're not foolin' anyone boy.
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