Browncoats that served, of know someone in Iraq right now...

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HERO

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:10 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Hero - thought you might need this

lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl) KEY
Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.

he·ro (hîr) KEY
celebrated for his bold exploits, and favored by the gods.
A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose,

If you have something legitimate to say, and can do it with out being rude or obnoxious - then please do. Otherwise shut your yap.

I think your definition of liberal lacks something. The term in modern times also carries a political distinction which is based upon current politcial values. While I am a conservative, I do not, for example, believe in the divine right of kings or that the world is flat. Such "liberal" notions as popular soveriegnty and private property are now hallmarks of the modern conservative movement. Liberals and conservatives both seek to constrain some things and free others, its in the distinction that our differences lie and the labels apply. Hey that kind of poetical.

And as for saying something legitimate, I, unlike liberals, will not ask you to speak my truth and only my truth, confounding dissenters to the midden heap of intellectual obscurity or better yet, silenced by force of will, law, or arms.

Thank you for your contribution, I respectfully disagree.

And liberals also lack a sense of humor.

Funny, from the definitions you provided, I still prefer heroes to liberals...

H

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:22 PM

What a load of crap. Liberal means what liberal means. Not what you "decide" it means.

I am really sick and tired of idiots, Republicans, Facists and anyone else telling me what I am, what I think and what I believe. You don't know the first f:censaored: thing about what it is to be Liberal. Notice I did not say A Liberal. It is not a noun. It is an adjective. What you are looking for is Democrat. That is a noun, that is a title.

As for not having a sense of humor - who the hell are you? Do you have insight into the minds of everyone in the world? I think not.

I believe EVERYONE has a right to their own opinion I do not, however, think that everyone has the right to foist it onto all and sundry. I don't thump a bible and I don't carry around a placard that decries my political beliefs to everyone I pass.

I find it very amusing that conservatives are constantly telling the world that liberals (a) have no sense of humor and are (b) crazy and (c) can't have an argument without name calling when the loudest voices in the conservative Republican party are hate mongers like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.

You can speak your truth. But speak the truth. Don't call names and make remarks that demean the other person. It shows how little you trully are.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:21 PM

Hero
You realy should bow out before you make yourself look an even bigger Dick than you already have.
Here was your chance to make an impression that could have changed a lot of peoples opinions of you but instead you decided to PN yourself in the foot, and in the "I'm a Dick" stakes you are now just about neck and neck with the Pirate.
Plus your refusal to believe in the Divine Right of Kings is just plain ridiculous.

TRISTAN

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:37 PM

I am always appalled by how these threads degenerate into school-yard fights. The thread was going along smoothly, thanking in our own way these men and women fighting for us, and Hero comes along and mentions a BBQ. While I shudder to mention this, there are some points he makes that I at least give nodding agreement to, and yet the way they are presented makes me ashamed. And then, the attacks start. Then, drag it away from the topic so you can drag out the soapbox. It's not just in this thread, I have seen it before. Again, you have some valid points, but your choice of time and place to present them leave much to be desired. Leave this thread to it's semi-original concept of taking a moment to think about those embroiled in combat.

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HERO

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I believe EVERYONE has a right to their own opinion I do not, however, think that everyone has the right to foist it onto all and sundry.

If you really believed that you'd keep it to yourself.

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You can speak your truth. But speak the truth. Don't call names and make remarks that demean the other person. It shows how little you trully are.

For example:

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I am really sick and tired of idiots, Republicans, Facists...

Poor liberals, can't even live by their own philosophy. (Shakes head in pity.)

H

HERO

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Plus your refusal to believe in the Divine Right of Kings is just plain ridiculous.

Finally, a good line. Made me smile...even a mild chuckle.

As for PN, everybody agrees he makes big with the crazy talk. Thats bad. Me, the jist of my argument is: Bush, good. Liberals, bad. If thats an opinion you disagree with, then fine, have at me. But you folk seem long on insults and short on argument. So I make with the funny but don't change my opinion. Liberals don't like it when you disagree. Seen it in court, classrooms, and right here right now.

There's no our point of you, your point of view, its just "your a dick" or "shut up" and you can't win with that...me I win just by playin along cause in the end I accept your notions for what they are and they don't change mine except to make me more sure (although, in some rare instances, my opinion has changed from discussion, education, or some current event...its the open mind part of being a good debater, part of why I don't often lose in court).

H

HERO

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Tristan:
The thread was going along smoothly, thanking in our own way these men and women fighting for us, and Hero comes along and mentions a BBQ.

I echoed the sentiment of the original poster, but challenged his political editorializing with some of my own.

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I worry that he might be put into a position where he might be forced to disobey orders...I worry that he might be hurt or killed. I hate that tiny, mean minds made it necessary for him to be there.

Never the less I find myself in agreement with your overall sentiment. How about a thread specifically limited to expressions of support with all politcial comment banned?

I pledge to not engage in political debate on such a thread unless its started by someone making a liberal comment about the character and conduct of the war. I bet you can't get the liberals to go along with that.

H

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:54 PM

Well, I thought that's what this thread was all about. So why not just try to keep it that way?

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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

RUE

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 AM

its just "your a dick" or "shut up"

Gee, I don't know about that.

In a different thread I posted (in part) this:

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So your argument breaks down like this:

1) it was to keep (non-existant) WMDs from the hands of the
2) non-cooperative parties in order to
3) destroy the (resurgent and very healthy) Taliban and al Qaeda (who still have their leadership and funding intact, and are coincidentally bright enough to have a strategy but so stupid they're diverted by Iraq)
4) so the US can keep up 'pressure' on and be distracted by it's own effing decoy.

Brilliant.

I thought it was objective, and actually responded to the points you were trying to make. Yet you failed to engage. Could it be that you don't actually debate when one is offered because you can't?

PLATINUMMONGOOSE

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:38 AM

Ok, I just have one thing to add to this. I'm not going to try to feed the debate on war vs. anti-war, liberal vs. conservative, Democrat vs. Republican, or any of that political stuff that I find either very dull or very frightening. I'm not. (For the record I'm vehemently anti-war and anti-Bush, but like I said that's so very much beside the point I'm about to try to make.)

Hero, get off the high horse. As much as you'd like to think so, you're not the center of the universe. Gallileo proved you wrong many years ago.

But what I would really like to do in this post is not demean you, Hero. I would like to thank you. There's a little quote thingy beneath your name.

Quote:
"Ultimately a hero is a man who would argue with the gods, and so awakens devils to contest his vision."- Norman Mailer (1963)

So, since you're obviously calling yourself a Hero, and since you're obviously arguing with many of us liberal-types, you are quite clearly (by your definition, remember) calling us gods. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Thank you.

Oh, and I notice the second part of your quote might imply that we are then devils, but since "contest" can mean either to strive for or against, it can be taken either way. Just wanted to shoot down that argument before it began. Like I said, I don't want to start anything. Just sending my thanks for the compliment.

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